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Re: First deer gun for a teenager
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2007, 03:06:03 PM »
OooK, I guess I asked for it. Iwent from not aclue to now having moer choices than I know what to do with. :D. I'll have to mull all this over and try to figure it out some how. Paul isn't a real big boy but he's stronger than he wants to believe. The weight issue is a good point Bro.N. I get tired carrying the 30-06 and I'm a great big feller. Many good points and suggestions guys, thanks.
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Re: First deer gun for a teenager
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2007, 08:24:02 PM »
LeeB, I don't know a lot about various calibers, but I recently bought a gun I really like. It is a  H&R Handi rifle, in 500 S&W.  H&R, and New England Firearms is owned by Marlin.  The gun is a single shot, with a wood stock.  This isn't an expensive rifle, a little over $200, but has pretty good reputation, far as I can tell.  You wouldn't want the 500 S&W for a youngster, but it is available in a wide range of barrels.  One thing I like, you can send in your gun for refitting and get another rifle caliber for $87 or so, or a shotgun barrel for $41.  I have hunted with a muzzle loader for years, so the single shot aspect doesn't bother me at all.  I really think for a youngster that is a good thing, as it helps remind him of the importance of taking a good shot and making it count.  I like the fact that it is light and easy to carry, and I don't have a fortune wrapped up in it.
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Re: First deer gun for a teenager
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2007, 08:53:39 PM »
Faron, the single shot aspect does'nt bother me either. I've tried to teach him 'one shot, one kill' when hunting. My opinion is if you can't get off a clean shot, don't sqeeze the trigger.
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Re: First deer gun for a teenager
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2007, 05:25:38 PM »
Bolt action 270 is my choice.Mine has worked excellent all around.Sweet for thise long distance shots and still shoots sweet for those close up woods shots.I have the model 710 with syn stock.

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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2007, 09:13:42 PM »
Lee, my daughter killed her first with my .270. After her proving to me she can handle recoil I purchased the H&R handirifle in 7mm-08. I could not have gotten a better caliber imo. The recoil matches the .243 model and the ballistics on paper match my .270 in 140 gr. core locks. I also like the single shot for shot placement training.
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« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2007, 02:41:30 AM »
I brought a 7mm-08 for my daughter to shoot her first deer with. I loved the gun so much I sold my 270 and now I shoot the 7mm-08. She was twelve at the time and the gun does a good number on the deer. For her first deer I used 120 grain hollow points. Since she has not hunted anymore this is now my gun and if she ever starts again I will have to get her another one.

A man I work with also shoots one and loves it.
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Re: First deer gun for a teenager
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2007, 08:56:49 AM »
CZ  I have a cz 527 carbine that is just a wonderful gun. Its short and lite with a great trigger has beautiful wood and is very very well made. Bolt action with a 5 round detachable magazine they come in 223 and 7.62x39 so its cheap to shoot. I have the 7.62x39 figure it is a 30 cal. a little liter than a 308 but very fast and able for white tail.

Are they building a elk herd in the ozarks?
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« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2007, 11:30:12 AM »
I could not remember who produced the carbine in a 7.62X39. I had a SKS at one time but traded it. I would like to get something like that for my wife to shoot. She has had several back surgeries so I need something without much recoil. She is using my son's 30-30 for now and he is using my 7mm-08 and I am using my muzzle loader.
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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2007, 07:12:36 PM »

Are they building a elk herd in the ozarks?

They are re-introducing elk through-out the middle and eastern mountain ranges. I was in the Kiamchi mountains in south eastern Oklahoma and they have a reproducing herd there with a very limited draw hunting season.
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Re: First deer gun for a teenager
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2007, 09:33:39 PM »
1st deer I shot was with a .22 Hornet.  I took a lung shot and it piled up 50 yards away  8) 8)  One shot one kill  ;)  Second deer that season I killed with Dad's 30-30.  I took two shots to be sure.  The second was when the buck stopped and was going to fall over anyway ;) ;D  The shots were 2 inches apart behind the shoulder and the deer went just as far as the one I killed with the Hornet.  I've used a .270 Win in a Mod 70 Winchester ever since.  It kills deer dead for sure but sometimes they sprint off a few yards before completely expiring.  I've haven't been able to hunt for a few years due to employment obligations but that is fixing to change ;) ;D  I mentioned the .260 Rem earlier as that's what I've got in mind for new deer rifle in an AR platform  8) 8)  Figure I'd better get one while we still can get them  :( >:( >:(
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« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2007, 11:30:18 PM »
Oh well it will me a while before they walk down here. I sure am ready to shoot something thats to big to drag back to the truck.
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« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2007, 12:47:44 PM »
been there, the story about the 243 going straight thru and leaving no damage made me think back. i think it was last year but there was a brand of factory ammo that had problems with their bullets not expanding and caused hunters all over problems with wounded deer. i do not know the name of the ammo but i even seen an article make mention of the problem in the nra magazine. i personally know several people that this affected and it was in 243 cal. each time. my boss just shot some different ammo the next day and he killed his deer with that shot.
the bad deal was they lost two deer the same day with those shells, they later found both deer ruined, after they had ran away like they had never been hit. one guy found a little hair but neither found any blood at all. i also know a couple more friends that has the same story.

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Re: First deer gun for a teenager
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2007, 07:11:56 AM »
It is hard to beat a 6mm or 243 for the first gun.
Don't worry about out growing a small calibur, just get a bigger one. That is how you get a gun collection.
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« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2007, 07:34:11 AM »
All this first rifle talk has me wanting to add to the collection.  But where to start. ??? ??? ??? I've had an itch for a M1A.  Like Corley said "while you can get one."
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« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2007, 06:38:49 PM »
Well I finally settled on a Savage 30-06. Not the best brand on the shelves, but it will get him started and it was reasonably priced. Package deal with a scope was $365. The boy was proud as punch. Almost broke my ribs. ;D ;D
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« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2007, 07:11:33 PM »
Good choice.
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« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2007, 01:04:07 AM »
Savage model 10 or 110 are find guns and dang fine shooters.
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« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2007, 05:39:44 AM »
Model 110
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« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2007, 01:00:39 PM »
The 7-08 I have is a 110. I love that Gun.

The one question I never asked was if you all hunt more open areas or timber? When in timber I will often grab my sons 30-30 or my black powder depending on how thick it is.
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« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2007, 06:52:38 PM »
Savage model 110 30.06 was the first rifle I bought myself when I was 16, I have always regreted selling that gun. :( Good choice and good hunting for the young fella.
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