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Re: Central Boiler E-Classic 2300-any experience???
« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2008, 10:40:17 PM »
Installed a Central Boiler a couple of years ago, and have had no problems whatsoever with it through two complete winters. Have had no door problems, although I do have a friend that had the door on his central boiler develop a crack and the dealer replaced the door. Other than that, he is completely satisfied too. Have to keep the chainsaw sharp, as it does eat some wood, but the payback is great.
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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2008, 02:49:46 AM »
The 100% effeciancy is highly suspect. The only way to get high effeciancy is to reburn exhaust gases as in a wood gasification stove. You need to acheive high temps in order to do that. Somewhere around 2000 degrees. Therefore the secondary burn chamber needs to be fire brick. Usually these type stoves are bottom drafting with the blower injected air into the secondary burn chamber. I have an old central boiler clone home built and I doubt it is 50% effeciant. There is a stove on the market-blue forge, that is a wood gasification type. It is also interesting that the side panels on this stove are removeable so the heat transfer pipes can be cleaned.

Ditto on the boiler plate steel being more effeciant on heat transfer. I think stainless is somewhere around 43% less efficiant on heat transfer. Stainless is also prone to heat stress cracks at the weld joints. There have been several manufactureres who have gone under because of this lack of foresight. Frankly, in my humble opinion, there is a lot of BS out there with with regard to stainless steel being the best steel to build wood stoves with. 304 vs ti enhanced 400 series stainless and so on. I figure boilers have been made for a long time using boiler plate for a reason. You just have to keep the PH of the water alkaline.

When my old stove gives up the ghost, I plan on building a wood gasification stove to replace it.

Central boiler does make a good stove.
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Re: Central Boiler E-Classic 2300-any experience???
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2008, 03:03:59 PM »
Piston, I have nothing to compare 'normal' oil usage to as this is the first oil gun I have operated.

Al - maybe it is that somewhat chilly air you seem to have up there  ;)
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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2008, 12:58:16 AM »
Just revisiting an old post, anyone have any experience with this model yet? or know someone who has?
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« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2008, 08:24:07 PM »
Piston,

I am installing a Central Boiler E-Classic 2300 tomorrow morning.  I have done extensive research, and have visited a site where this model (and other CB boilers) were up and running.  The smoke from the stack was reduced dramatically in this model, and wood use was suggested to be 20-30% less than the CB6048, which is the regular model of comparable heat capacity/output.  Please feel free to ask any questions.  I will give you objective feedback as I learn the stove.  I am heating a 4,000 square foot house, using 3 zones of hydronic air, and 3 zones of hot water base board.  I will likely post a new thread once I get it up and running since I've spent 6 months looking for a thread without much luck, and figure there are other people who might like to hear about my experiece, whether good or bad.  This is my first outdoor wood furnace.  I am used to heating with wood stoves.

Update:  Here is the thread for my CB E-Classic 2300 http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,32705.msg471695.html#msg471695
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« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2008, 09:57:45 PM »
Welcome to the forum, whodoctor.

We'll look forward to your experiences with the CB outdoor.
Installation pics would be super great too.  ;D ;D  we like pics.

What type of wood do you plan to push through it? Dry, green, large, small ?? ???
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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2008, 09:39:24 AM »
Welcome to the forum,whodoctor.You will like your outdoor furnace.I had to re-learn how to burn wood with my Heatmor.I have land so I burn a lot of dead and rotten wood in mine. That's what I wanted it for.Good luck.
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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2008, 10:44:40 PM »
whodoctor,
welcome to the forum and thanks for posting.  I will be especially interested in your report once you have it up and running and get some miles on her...I am still very interested in the boiler so any info you report on is appreciated, you know all the usual questions like burn times under what conditions, what type of wood your burning, and very important also is whether or not it does what the website and company says it does.  now how bout some pics!   8)
if you do post a thread on it, would you mind noting it in this thread? that way anyone that finds this thread will have a link to yours....good luck
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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2008, 10:23:30 AM »
Just wanted to post a link to the E-classic 2300 Dual Fuel thread, covering the install and operating blog notes.

http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,32705.msg471695.html#msg471695
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« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2008, 10:31:53 AM »
Newbie here, and so glad to find a forum like this.  I'm looking at purchasing a 2300 shortly, and have a few general questions (and not just for Central Boiler users).  What kind of maintenance am I looking at for the unit on a daily/weekly/monthly/etc. basis.  Outside of the obvious wood hauling, cutting, and loading.  I want to make sure I know how deep the water is before I jump in, and I appreciate any comments that would help.

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Re: Central Boiler E-Classic 2300-any experience???
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2008, 01:18:20 PM »
analog, welcome to the forum!

The maintenance issues will probably vary from manufacturer to manufacturer.  For my CB I clean it totally out once a year at the end of the heating season.  It burns anything I put in it and does very well with green wood.  The ash removal is dependant on the wood burned and the size of the unit.  I clean mine out about every two weeks during the heating season.  It takes me about 15minutes to shovel the ash into the front loader.

Hope this helps. 

Do a search on boilers.  You will find a wealth of info.
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« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2008, 09:10:58 PM »
Welcome to the forum,analog.  Here's one thread to get you going,

http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,22620.0.html

  There's been a few treads on here about OWF.I have a Heatmor.Not much maintenace to it.A drop of oil in the blowers,check the rod in it to see if the water is harsh or not.I had someone install it for me.I did the grunt work,poured the pad,dug the ditches,laid the pipe outside,hung the heat exchangers.Wanted it to come out right.
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« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2008, 09:45:21 PM »
I ordered the CL6048 a few weeks back.  Waiting for delivery.  Next week I pour the pad and dig the trench for the thermo PEX. 

I looked long and hard at the E-2300 before deciding on the Classic 6048.  I can't say that the E-2300 is bad, but Central Boiler moved away from all of the promoted Pros that they touted as advantages when they came out with the E-2300.   It's fire brick lined, not boiler plate steel; does not have the heat baffles or "jagged" water tank bottom for more heat transfer area.  And, they WILL NOT quote BTUs, only that it is "similar" to CL6048.

I looked at them sitting side-by-side at the dealer and just couldn't see any reason to go to something still new and no field proof over any significant time,  when for less $$$ I could get proven capability.
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« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2008, 10:20:50 AM »
DR_Buck,

I hear your point on the unproven nature of the E-Classic.  I bought one, and I have my fingers crossed that it will run well.  My father did NOT by one for the same reasons that you just mentioned.  We'll see how this goes.
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« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2008, 09:04:19 PM »
Hi everyone,
 I have to thank all of you for the information that you have given regarding wood boilers.
On July 5 I purchased a central boiler 2300 e-classic. Although I havenot recieved it , I appreciate any wisdom that you have offered. After it is set-up and I become accustom to its workings , I shall share with all  , the experiences , good and bad  that I have encountered.  Once again, thanks for the help.((( Firewood Fred)))

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« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2008, 09:16:48 PM »
Welcome to the Forum, Firewood Fred.

We'll look forward to your experiences, for sure.

What are you setting it up for...home, shop, or both?

What restrictions/codes, etc. do you have to watch out for when setting it up?

Do you have the seasoned wood for this winter? 

Just curious....
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« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2008, 09:17:06 PM »
I got the call yesterday.  My Classic 6048 is in.  :)    It will be delivered sometime the week of 8 September.  My pad is poured and my next project is to dig the trench for the thermo PEX, power and thermostat control cable.  My primary goal is to get it hooked up for heating before the cold rolls in.  I still have some time here in VA until I need to worry.  ;)  I'll get the domestic hot water hooked up after everything else is working.
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« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2008, 02:18:08 PM »
Dr. Buck,

Where are you in NoVa?   I was born in Manassas, grew up in Fairfax, but lived in Loudoun for the last 15 years,  before my recent more to NJ.  I sure miss Virginia.  Good luck with your CL6048,  I was strongly leaning toward that unit.  It is proven and going with the E-Classic (as I did) is kind of a throw of the dice.  But I need to be compliant with visible smoke regs for my area.  Fingers crossed.

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« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2008, 09:25:16 AM »
DR, go ahead and plumb the domestic hot water while you are doing everything else.  It is easier to do it while running the lines than to splice it in later.

You make me feel good.  Here I was bemoaning being behind in gathering firewood for the coming winter, but I at least have my stove installed. 

Thanks, buddy  8)
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« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2008, 04:57:10 PM »
I will try and attach photos here of my e-classic 2300 burning. 

The stove is burning in all photos.  In a few of them I have opened up the bypass door to show the difference.

I hope you get to see how they look.   If the photos don't attach here I will post another link were you can go and see them.

Also...in these photos I am burning a few pieces of punky wood just to use it up.  I would imagine that with all dry wood it would burn even cleaner.   I am only guessing there....   This is my first OWB ever....

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