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Offline Splinter

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bucking firewood there has to be a better way
« on: June 10, 2008, 06:56:58 AM »

Hi All,

Been lurking for a while lots of good stuff here. Did my first harvest last winter, and had the logger leave a few cords of firewood on the landing. I like making firewood, even splitting by hand, but bucking on the ground I do not enjoy. So who has a better way without spending big bucks? Have a kubota RTV and a tractor with loader. My initial thoughts are to make a deck of some kind and cut off of that.

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Re: bucking firewood there has to be a better way
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2008, 07:03:36 AM »
Welcome,

  I use a LOOOOONG bar and hire cheap labor to pick it and put the rounds in metal crates or pallets w/ sides. It is hard finding cheap labor even for this. Be careful of the dangers of the long bar :(

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Re: bucking firewood there has to be a better way
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2008, 11:27:26 AM »
Corely5 has the perfect system.... :)
Place the log, and keep the chain teeth sharp.

 
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Re: bucking firewood there has to be a better way
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2008, 03:59:24 PM »
beenthere,

That sure is nice but doesn't pass the big bucks test.


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Re: bucking firewood there has to be a better way
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2008, 04:10:33 PM »
really there are only a few things you can do, you can do what you suggested deck them up with the tractor so they arent touching the ground. you can get one of those things you just saw (full processor). or you can do what i mostly do, cut the tree into firewood where it hits the ground, make small community piles from 3-5 trees, and leave them where they are, come back in a month or 2 and move them with a pick up.
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Re: bucking firewood there has to be a better way
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2008, 04:16:48 PM »
beenthere,

That sure is nice but doesn't pass the big bucks test.



Welcome to the forum...I didn't know there was a test... :D :D :D
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Re: bucking firewood there has to be a better way
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2008, 04:26:50 PM »
getcha a timber jack...lifts the log off the ground, and use a long bar with a powerful saw..I use an MS660 for bucking, and a little Ms180 for limbing...go through an average tree in a few minutes..
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Re: bucking firewood there has to be a better way
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2008, 05:28:41 PM »
beenthere,

That sure is nice but doesn't pass the big bucks test.



Welcome to the forum...I didn't know there was a test... :D :D :D

I'm gonna like it here. Let me run that one by the finance minister.

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Re: bucking firewood there has to be a better way
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2008, 08:59:49 PM »
I use an MS660 for bucking, and a little Ms180 for limbing...go through an average tree in a few minutes..

WOW you use a very large saw for firewood. My Little (in comparison) 365 will do the same job on firewood in no time at all. that thing can do it all.
I also assume when you say through a tree in a few minutes you mean the whole thing limbed and bucked not a few minutes in one cut.
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Re: bucking firewood there has to be a better way
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2008, 09:21:07 PM »
If you do some research and are careful, obeying all of the safety recomendations, you might benefit from a bowbar on your chainsaw.  It is built for bucking and even works pretty good on the ground.
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Re: bucking firewood there has to be a better way
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2008, 09:29:03 PM »
I bought a timber jack, (a homemade one,) at a garage sale a few years ago.  Works pretty slick, but after while gets to be more trouble then it's worth packing it around, putting the saw down, cutting, moving, ect.  Mostly I've now got a routine of cutting as far as I can without hitting the ground, finding a cut I can make all the way through, roll the log with your foot and then go back and finish the cuts.  But doesn't work on the really big stuff and hard on the knees.  My neighbor has a good sized tractor with forks and simply lifts them up, cuts back and forth on each end at waist height.
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Re: bucking firewood there has to be a better way
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2008, 10:47:26 PM »
I knew i'd see something new here.
never heard of a bow saw before tonight, might take the drudge out of bucking.
Lots of scary comments about them on the web, but not sure how they can kick back if the spur is used.



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Re: bucking firewood there has to be a better way
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2008, 11:09:37 PM »
Here is a Forum thread with a lot of  forum links on Bowsaws. "link"
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Re: bucking firewood there has to be a better way
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2008, 11:18:30 PM »
Yes it is overkill...I bought the saw for milling, then bought a WM, so unless I have a great big log to
quarter out, it sits there..nuh-uuuuhhh...it's gotta earn its keep, so I bust wood with it..it's heavy, and i can't run it for too awful long..about a tank of fuel at best..but it is like cutting wood with a funny car.

I limbed out and bucked a 16" sweetgum the other day...took a half hour, including the drop.

I did have little girls dragging the light stuff out of the way so I could get around it, though.
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Re: bucking firewood there has to be a better way
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2008, 11:38:00 PM »
I bought a timber jack, (a homemade one,) at a garage sale a few years ago.  Works pretty slick, but after while gets to be more trouble then it's worth packing it around, putting the saw down, cutting, moving, ect.  Mostly I've now got a routine of cutting as far as I can without hitting the ground, finding a cut I can make all the way through, roll the log with your foot and then go back and finish the cuts.  But doesn't work on the really big stuff and hard on the knees.  My neighbor has a good sized tractor with forks and simply lifts them up, cuts back and forth on each end at waist height.


I do as you do...

Tried the forks but there again, the time it takes to get one lifted, then move back and forth from end to end to keep the log balanced, I find that leaving the log on the ground...is much quicker.
Now, if one had a top finger to hold down the log on the forks..then might have a good better system. Also, one reason I like the 20" bar (on Stihl MS361) is it is less bending over for me (5'9").
Now, just needing to get out there and tackle the piled-up logs that have been waiting 2 months for me.

Now Splinter...we do like pics... ;D ;D ;D
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Re: bucking firewood there has to be a better way
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2008, 06:17:21 AM »
A few poles or some limb wood on the ground under the stem of the tree usually hold it high enough to buck it up without hitting the ground.  On bigger stuff I saw half way through then roll the stem and finish the cuts. 

However, the method I like the best is when I pull several pieces into a pile with the winch.  The top pieces are easy to buck then I lift the bottom pieces on top of the cut pieces and nothing gets bucked on the ground.

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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2008, 09:00:46 AM »
Here's a link to the Speedy Firewood Jig: http://www.snakemtrattler.com/Woodjig.htm There are models to mount on a tractor loader or on the 3 point hitch. I like the looks of the loader mount myself (scroll down the page a bit for photos).

The slots to allow cutting to length while the tractor is holding the logs at a comfortable height is a great idea. The idea of holding a load of wood over a truck or trailer, and cutting to length and dropping right into bed seems convenient.

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« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2008, 03:13:16 PM »
wow the guy in those pictures scares me cutting with shorts and sneakers on.
usually what i have done in the past is have the wood decked up in a triangular shape like any log deck and start cutting it that way. you just have to be carefull that you dont get a rolling log on your leg or a wood chunk fall off and hit you.
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« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2008, 05:08:10 PM »
wow the guy in those pictures scares me cutting with shorts and sneakers on.

Yeah, no eye or hearing protection either. He's not exactly OHSA's poster boy for chainsaw safety, is he?
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Re: bucking firewood there has to be a better way
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2008, 07:51:54 PM »
wow the guy in those pictures scares me cutting with shorts and sneakers on.

Yeah, no eye or hearing protection either. He's not exactly OHSA's poster boy for chainsaw safety, is he?


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