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Re: Safe room/Tornado shelter
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2008, 08:58:24 PM »
2 years ago we started building a 32 x 72 slab on grade house with a 9 x 15 (6x12 inside) attached Safe Room.
 
The Safe Room is attached to the house by a 4' breezeway. We did not want the Safe Room to interfere with the building of the house. When the house was closed in we connected the two structures.
 
The Safe Room was constructed using EcoBlock ICF. The footing contains 10 cubic yards or 40,000lbs of concrete. The sides and top are 12" of 6000psi concrete, 20 yards, 80,000lbs. We doubled the recommended rebar amount just for.....Well, just in case :)
The top and sides were pumped at one time to eliminate a cold joint.
Then we had a custom steel door made that swings in.
 
The floor for the house is at the same level as the floor of the Safe Room. This is so everyone can be moved to safety regardless of their mobility status.  In fact the house is connected to the Saw Shop by a side walk and concrete road (450').
So it is possible to go from the sawmill building to the Safe Room in a wheelchair.
Linda and I custom saw NHLA Grade Lumber, do retail sales, and provide Kiln Services full time.

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Re: Safe room/Tornado shelter
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2008, 09:40:09 AM »
Great job. You made a good decision doing a monolithic pour.

Have any pics of the finished project?
The oil is all in Texas, but the dipsticks are in D.C.

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Re: Safe room/Tornado shelter
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2008, 09:29:06 PM »
We covered the ICF with 1/2" dry wall. The trim is not done yet.

The Breezeway was a good place for the Central Vac Power unit.

We are still working on the landscape.
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Re: Safe room/Tornado shelter
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2008, 08:41:06 AM »
You know if I didn't know better I'd say that siding looked suspiciously like vinyl. ;D

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Re: Safe room/Tornado shelter
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2008, 08:40:08 PM »
Norm,
 
You are correct. It's vinyl.

We needed to get closed in before the fall rains. Linda did 90% of the siding.


 My 10% effort was up at the peaks.


Later on in a few years we may change to something else.
We really wanted the whole house covered in stone. But that would have taken a long time.
There are doors to make and all the trim, plus more dirt work.

I'm not giving up on the stone idea though.  ;D
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Re: Safe room/Tornado shelter
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2008, 09:05:36 PM »
Looks great. Thanks for the pics. My wife wants a central vaccum. If I'm going to do one I need to do it now.

Are y'all happy with it?
The oil is all in Texas, but the dipsticks are in D.C.

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Re: Safe room/Tornado shelter
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2008, 08:18:07 AM »
I'm only teasing Al. We tore off the WRC siding on our old house my son lives in now and put on vinyl. I don't care how much I love wood, up here it was a pain to care for and did a lousy job of protecting the outside of the house. Brick or stone may cost more and take longer but if you can they are the best choices for exterior finish in the great white north.

By the way your house is a beautiful! We're going to have to take a break, burn some evil ethanol and visit.

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Re: Safe room/Tornado shelter
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2008, 07:57:31 PM »
TexasTimbers,

We are thrilled with the central vac system. There are lots of attachments available.

A couple things to remember....Get the muffler to quit it down, and put a 2x6 wall in between the living area and where the vac power head hangs.  Ours is quiet enough that someone could sleep while the vac is being used. It might be tough for some to fall a sleep while it's going. But give them a half hour to start dreaming about logs and lumber, and your ready to go.




Norm,

Linda and I talked about a mix of rock and wood siding, but the maintenance would be a killer. I have trouble getting stuff done that needs to be done now. Plus after fussing with wood at the mill all week the last thing I want to do is fuss with more wood on my half day off.
We have two loggers over this way who built log houses. 5 - 7 years ago they are continually hiring contractors to fix or refurbish the houses.

We caught the siding on sale at Menards. It was the best stuff they carry and still cost less then $2000.
I had a customer offer $1000 for the siding when it comes off. I bet it would cost $3000 to side the house now.
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Re: Safe room/Tornado shelter
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2008, 12:27:30 AM »
Thanks for the info Al. We have a great place for the unit behind a foam filled wall.

I'll Google up some brand/feature comparisons.

The oil is all in Texas, but the dipsticks are in D.C.

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Re: Safe room/Tornado shelter
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2008, 10:45:27 PM »
This is why we have a Safe Room.

07-02-08  5:15pm CST

This shot was grabbed from our place looking NW.
What you see is the contents of a pond nearly sucked dry :o
Sheriff's Deputy reported the water was 600-800' in the air. ;D


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Re: Safe room/Tornado shelter
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2008, 10:50:50 PM »
I have a Vacumaid  CVS . It is made in Nebraska.   Realy like it . I would not spend money on the floor vac pans or what ever they are called set by the floor to sweep dirt into . I think that useing the vac hose works better because there is less dust created.  I saved a lot of money useing 2" schedual 40 pvc insted of the thin vac pipe.  The wall conections(inlets) that I used slip into the 2" snug .  the thin wall fits inside the wall connections.   8' vac pipe cost almost twice the price of 10' pvc
pvc provides fittings that will let you install cleanouts ,and has longer sweap turns.
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