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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2008, 12:51:39 PM »
and not sure if age means anything with the echo brand, but years ago i worked for an electric contractor and they had echo everything, saws,  drills, press motors. and they all were work horses and we had no problems with tehm either.
Age means alot in the smaller Echoes IMO. It used to be that when Echo(Kioritz) was originally all orange and made of metal, all of the saws were built to the same standard, not super performers but bullet proof. When they went gray the small saws became just like all the rest of the small saws out there, throw away.

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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2008, 12:52:32 PM »
IMHO, in years past Echo was an excellent good product. My Deere (Echo) served  me well (with no problems) for many years unti I used a 026 Stihl. The old Deere was put into semi-retirement rather quickly and traded in some time later. This was simply from the performance gains that technology brought, not any fault of the old saw or it's reliability. I actually wish I wouldn't have sold it.
My dad still runs an old 450g Deere trimmer, also made by Echo. The machine has been to heck and back and still runs /starts like new. It will be a sad day when it has to be retired and I'll wager it will be lack of parts that will seal it's fate.
Sadly Echo has chosen to put it's eggs in the homeowner basket. I wouldn't even consider one today.

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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2008, 03:50:49 PM »
those were the old echos then, i remember they were all metal and orange in color, actually the looked like a very grease covered light red :D and like you say i never remember them failing to start or us working on them.

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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2008, 04:15:31 PM »
The smallest Echo I own is a CS440 which is not the clamshell design.........   

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You really piqued my interest here Steve because I didn`t think that the smaller Echoes were anything but clamshell models so I went looking for the IPL, look at what I found.......


Are you really so sure that you know all that much about the smaller Echo saws that you`re pushing?

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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2008, 04:58:47 PM »
Jokers
What's your point?

Some of your responses make me wonder what your objective is on the forum. 
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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2008, 05:46:38 PM »
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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2008, 06:18:45 PM »
Stihl, Husky, Poulan, Echo, Dolmar, clamshell designs are just that and do what was intended, be cheaper for the homeowners to buy.
I dont think one is any better then the other  IMO  and sometimes you just get lucky and get a good one or a POS ( I wouldnt buy any of the newer poulan stuff either).  I try and stay with magnesium cased saws myself even for my homeowner duties, be it  Poulan or other brand.
I have ran the 170 and 180 and they are gutless IMHO, but very very  light and would fit a young  kid nicely because of the light weight. My $50 like new 38cc Poulan 220 would eat the 180's lunch. Back to back timed cuts (but who care on such small saws) ( no not same bar and chains). I then broke out a 36cc clamshell poulan and it did the same thing and took the 180's drink.   But the poulans were heavier and you could feel it, I think they were closer to the old 346 weights 10.5 - 10.8lbs.
I am also talking poulans made 2001 or older before the epa mufflers and carbs.

My MS170 was absoluty gutless also, then I had the flywheel off and I noticed there was about 10 degrees of slop in the high quality flywheel and key so I set it with the timing advanced a little, now it's just gutless not absoluty gutless.  Steve
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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2008, 06:47:25 PM »
.......and I'm letting you all know that you are being admonished for taking this thread to a personal level which is neither appreciated nor will it be condoned.  Some have a PM coming your way.  Some who don't should take note.  Chainsaw operators haven't the right on this forum to disparage others whether you are educated, experienced or not.

Make this the last time that someone has to mention this to you.
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« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2008, 09:47:53 PM »
Jokers
What's your point?

Some of your responses make me wonder what your objective is on the forum. 
Beenthere,

My only objective on this forum is to honestly and accurately discuss chainsaws and their use.

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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2008, 12:19:31 AM »
for the money you could spend on these small saws you could possbly find a used saw? i found both of my saws in like new used condition for under $200. and they to this day run like champions. one is the husqvarna 365 sp and the other is a Stihl Ms290. both of those saws in the condition they are in would outcut a brand new ms170. if your going to be doing some chainsaw carving or light brush and firewood work get one, but if you have any real logging or pro work to do look at a bigger saw, you will be much happier.
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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2019, 12:00:19 AM »
There is a reason that Echo don't list power in their specs......
Ahhh, its because they're smart as listing HP tends to lead to lawsuits if a saw doesn't perform "per listed" HP. and HP alone doesn't mean anything as many saws with "less hp" will output a saw that has higher HP
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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2019, 04:55:27 AM »
i have a chance to buy a ms170 from our local dealer wicth is also my cousin for only $230  i just want to kow how good they work ???
Mine cost me $31 Aus for a replacement piston and ring. My mate was too hard on it and gave it to me . I love this little saw in the garden and around the grounds. It is what it is, but it isn't a toy...It's a tool to do a job 
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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2019, 05:34:10 PM »
  Since this thread started in 2008 I know a lot of people who have switched over to Echo saws and they like them, Stihl quality is headed downhill.   Steve
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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2019, 05:40:31 PM »
i have a chance to buy a ms170 from our local dealer wicth is also my cousin for only $230  i just want to kow how good they work ???
Mine cost me $31 Aus for a replacement piston and ring. My mate was too hard on it and gave it to me . I love this little saw in the garden and around the grounds. It is what it is, but it isn't a toy...It's a tool to do a job
I have an MS170. Around 4 years now. I love that little saw. Cost now is AUD$249 ($299 when I bought mine, with sharpener kit).
I thought it would be a toy, only suited to the pruning that I got it for - but it is much better than that - I use it on small firewood 4 inch and even larger. As long as you work to the limitations of the saw (31cc I think and thin chain), it is a light, easy to use and surprisingly capable little saw.
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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2019, 08:30:21 PM »
Heck, I cut 8 or 10 inch logs with my 2511T if that's what I got in my hands. I'm sure it's every bit as good and most likely better than the more expensive MS150.

I like my 361P and sure don't think a 201 is worth 3 or 400 more.

I do think the Stihl 241 is probably worth the difference over a CS-400 if you pay the usual $300 price tag. But only if you're comfortable spending the 520 plus tax that the 241 commands. That's really the only new Stihl saw that I dream of having.

As far as the lesser rear handle saws. I don't really know because I haven't used them enough to know.
The 310 and 352 are plenty light, but a bit chunky.
Don't think I'd buy a 170 but might try a 180.
I'd love to find a minty old rear handle version in the 3450 or 346.
And if you can overlook the made in china thing, the little Makitas look like pretty good saws if a tad heavy.

They'll probably all cut some very large stuff if you've got the time.

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« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2019, 04:27:22 AM »
Heck, I cut 8 or 10 inch logs with my 2511T if that's what I got in my hands. I'm sure it's every bit as good and most likely better than the more expensive MS150.

I like my 361P and sure don't think a 201 is worth 3 or 400 more.

I do think the Stihl 241 is probably worth the difference over a CS-400 if you pay the usual $300 price tag. But only if you're comfortable spending the 520 plus tax that the 241 commands. That's really the only new Stihl saw that I dream of having.

As far as the lesser rear handle saws. I don't really know because I haven't used them enough to know.
The 310 and 352 are plenty light, but a bit chunky.
Don't think I'd buy a 170 but might try a 180.
I'd love to find a minty old rear handle version in the 3450 or 346.
And if you can overlook the made in china thing, the little Makitas look like pretty good saws if a tad heavy.

They'll probably all cut some very large stuff if you've got the time.
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The 170 was a gift. This little thing  goes great if not pushed too hard
If I would buy something for this application the 180/181 would probably be worth the little extra
Husky and Echo also impress me with their gear
Off topic but the battery gear I use for work is Makita and their battery chainsaws are starting to raise an eyebrow

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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2019, 07:52:08 PM »
 Since this thread started in 2008 I know a lot of people who have switched over to Echo saws and they like them, Stihl quality is headed downhill.   Steve
Maybe I missed seeing it somewhere - but can I ask in all honesty, are you are an ECHO dealer or representative of the brand?

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« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2019, 08:53:27 PM »
I bid on a new Stihl 170 at a motorcycle charity auction several years ago and won it. I let it sit for a year never having been started until both of my old large saws died. It has been one excellent saw! I have dropped dozens of  20 inch hardwoods and cut them up. I do take my time so as not to over heat it. First small saw I ever owned and I'm loving the light weight.

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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2019, 07:13:59 AM »
 Since this thread started in 2008 I know a lot of people who have switched over to Echo saws and they like them, Stihl quality is headed downhill.   Steve
Maybe I missed seeing it somewhere - but can I ask in all honesty, are you are an ECHO dealer or representative of the brand?



   Can you honestly say Stihl quality hasn't went downhill in the last 20 years, back then you couldn't buy a low quality  Stihl saw.  I work on saws and have run most .  Steve
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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2019, 07:46:17 AM »
          Its a gamble with all brands of homeowner saws.  There not meant to be used hard every day as a pro saw, but some do, and and hold up well.  Much has to do with the user sometimes more than anything else.  How there used, maintained, and stored.   There alittle less forgiving than pro saws in general.   You pay more for a pro saw and they tend to take more abuse than a homeowner before they fail. And are easier to rebuild as a rule.  I've always preferred the middle class or semi-pro models.  You seem to get the best of both classes with longevity, and features.   If I lived in town and needed a saw just once in awhile, it would be a battery saw.  A lot of problems with fuel and storage don't apply to those.  :)


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