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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2019, 11:18:31 AM »
I wonder how an Echo 3450, 345, 346 compares, power-wise, to a Stihl 170, 171, or even a 193c.
I was thinking on buying one as I thought it would make a decent carving saw, or at least something I could experiment with a 1/4 pitch bar and chain on. Some of the parts interchange with my 361P, which is a little bigger, heavier, and more powerful. I like the 361P for general cutting of logs and limbs with the tall short bar. 
But I figured the older, smaller, lighter rear handled saw would be nice for more detailed work. And didn't really want to spend four bills on a 193c.

I know it's more cc's, which is how most people would want to classify them. But I'd be more inclined to group it by size and weight.

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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2019, 06:42:36 PM »

Maybe I missed seeing it somewhere - but can I ask in all honesty, are you are an ECHO dealer or representative of the brand?



   Can you honestly say Stihl quality hasn't went downhill in the last 20 years, back then you couldn't buy a low quality  Stihl saw.  I work on saws and have run most .  Steve
Possibly - Stihl has models which by some could be considered lower quality than the rest of the most of their really good line saws and other equipment - I assume the thinking or reasoning on their part being, why should they just leave it up to Husqvarna to provide some cheap alternatives to brands like Echo to compete against, for the Big Box store and local corner hardware walk-in purchasers, you know.. those that demand and need 'bargain-basement' pricing above all else, for that obvious market that exists there..
But you never answered my question.. for all of the brand flogging, do you actually sell these things or are you just continually waving the flag so it gets you better pricing somewhere?  

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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2019, 07:05:52 PM »
Iíve had a 170 for about 5 years to use around the sawmill, itís a great little saw that gets used every day. When I bought it, it was less than 160 dollars and came with extra chain and 6 pack of sthil oil. Pretty good but I think

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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2019, 05:16:07 AM »
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Possibly - Stihl has models which by some could be considered lower quality than the rest of the most of their really good line saws and other equipment - I assume the thinking or reasoning on their part being, why should they just leave it up to Husqvarna to provide some cheap alternatives to brands like Echo to compete against, for the Big Box store and local corner hardware walk-in purchasers, you know.. those that demand and need 'bargain-basement' pricing above all else, for that obvious market that exists there..
But you never answered my question.. for all of the brand flogging, do you actually sell these things or are you just continually waving the flag so it gets you better pricing somewhere?  



No I don't sell Echo saws except for a few used one to some of my sawmill customers who use them and like them.  My gripe with Stihl is that they are using their name to sell low quality machines to make a lot of money right now.  That name is going down hill. Yes they do make good over priced pro saws.   Steve

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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2019, 08:20:46 AM »
Iíve had a 170 for about 5 years to use around the sawmill, itís a great little saw that gets used every day. When I bought it, it was less than 160 dollars and came with extra chain and 6 pack of sthil oil. Pretty good but I think
I bought the same saw 3 years ago; saw, extra chain, oil, and taxes out the door for less than $200.  Three pulls cold and one pull for the rest of the day doing it's job as my "sawmill saw".  I have no idea what "low quality" would mean because I could not ask for anything lighter, handier, or more reliable.
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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2019, 08:50:31 AM »
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 Yes they do make good over priced pro saws.   Steve


I see people call Stihl overpriced fairly regularly. I'm not familiar with the entire lines of saws from the different companies, but for kicks, I compared the price of the 362cm I bought with the Husky 562xp. Both are $760 with a 20" bar, and with Stihl, it comes with a superior B&C. I suppose an argument can be made that both are high, but when you command the market, you command the price. The world's pretty much Stihl and Husky with a bunch of also-rans. The also-rans play with price to collect the crumbs from Stihl and Husky, and you may or may not have dealer support. If you travel or move, you may or may not find support fwhen you need it. Around here. Stihl is everywhere, with Husky following, but not terribly hard to find a shop. Echo has a pretty good presence, and my local hardware store is a full service shop, but I don't know how common that is.
Aside from a quick throwaway saw I needed in an emergency, echo is the only one I'd consider that aren't the big two. I have no idea where I'd get any other saw around here.
Oh, and the echo 620p is ~$550. Similar to the saws I mentioned, and a couple hundred less. Probably a good choice if there's a good shop close by. I'll let others argue on the quality of running them for professional use. I'm pretty happy with my cs400 as a non pro.

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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2019, 10:39:14 AM »

 When you take a saw apart and work on it you can see the quality or lack of it.  Steve
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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2019, 08:39:13 PM »
While not am MS170, I do have a MS171. I just bought it this fall for cutting a few pieces of wood here and there. I have used it for about an hour overall so far and I must say that it is a nice little saw. I do not think I would have been any happier with anything else. The only reason for the MS171 over the MS170 was the easier chain adjusting, quick flip fill caps, better shock absorbtion. And also the fact that I knew nothing about chainsaws and my dad told me I was only buying one saw once so but the better one now. And no, he does not know much either. And also to note, I immediately upgraded the standard .043 bar and chain to a .050 bar and chain. 

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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2019, 06:39:09 PM »
I got a like new non running ms180 off the craigslist, after a carb cleaning it is like new! my ol lady loved it and ran out and bought a ms170 thinking it was the same, After running both saws side by side there is NO comparison, the 180 cuts circles around a 170! I gave a Cnote for the 180 and she gave 150 and change for the 170.

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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2019, 06:09:35 PM »
I have a MS 170 and an MS 180 have had both for years and they are good saws. Mine got hard to start so I took one in with no change in the starting. I looked on line and tore into the 180 cleaned the exhaust screen new plug new gas line. I tried to start it today and after it primed itself by pulling. It now starts on the 3rd pull cold. I used both of these saws on my sawmill for years. I also have an MS 290 and that one was bought in the early 2000. It has never gave me any problems in all that time

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Re: stihl ms 170 chainsaw
« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2019, 05:40:35 AM »
I have a MS 170 and an MS 180 have had both for years and they are good saws. Mine got hard to start so I took one in with no change in the starting. I looked on line and tore into the 180 cleaned the exhaust screen new plug new gas line. I tried to start it today and after it primed itself by pulling. It now starts on the 3rd pull cold. I used both of these saws on my sawmill for years. I also have an MS 290 and that one was bought in the early 2000. It has never gave me any problems in all that time
The spark screen can get clogged on these. Will start/run but bog down on acceleration .Easy fix.
Mine had a choke that wasn't closing fully when needed .Took 12 pulls to start cold
Easy fix to make the lever push it fully over. Like new now
Google these problems and video solutions. Very common these two
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