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Re: I have an unknown tree for identification
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2008, 11:56:24 PM »
My first thought is Morus alba.  White mulberry.  Brought over from China for the silk trade.
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Re: I have an unknown tree for identification
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2008, 09:33:59 AM »
Yep, it's a white mulberry.
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Re: I have an unknown tree for identification
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2008, 09:53:32 AM »
The way to differentiate the native red from the introduced white is:

Red mulberry will have a scabrous (sand-papery) upper surface.  Rough on the tongue if you are a leaf licker.

White mulberry will be as smooth as a baby's bottom.
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Re: I have an unknown tree for identification
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2008, 11:02:07 AM »
Well there ya go. A mulberry with birch leaves and no mittens.  ;D

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Re: I have an unknown tree for identification
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2008, 07:20:19 AM »
Sometimes it is hard to stuff nature in the pigeon hole.  Lanier Lurker and I were talking last weekend about hickory.  Pignut has 5 leaflets until you find one with 7 :)  Persimmon usually does not have a diaphramed pith until you cut a twig open to show someone the difference from blackgum and find the little diaphrammed pith grinning back up at you ;D.
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« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2008, 02:31:21 PM »
Yes, there are some that Peterson notes in his field guide that often have a diaphragm pith, but sometimes won't. ;D

Of note are pawpaw A. triloba and sweet-spires Itea virginica and yes persimmon. ;D

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Re: I have an unknown tree for identification
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2008, 09:57:59 PM »
WDH 8)

Now I think we are getting somewhere, We have a red native mulberry in the back yard, I will compare the two of them tomorrow, but here is my concern.......There are no berries on this one, yet there are green flower buds in spring.

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Re: I have an unknown tree for identification
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2008, 10:27:42 PM »
Maybe we have a never-before-seen natural hybrid?
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« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2008, 11:06:57 PM »
Mulberry has male and female plants.  It there are no berries, then it is a boy ;D.
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Re: I have an unknown tree for identification
« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2008, 10:24:01 PM »
Thanks folks!!

I took a good look at the two trees (red and white mulberry) and the stem, leaves and characteristics of both are similar therefore I can only conclude it's a white mulberry

Thanks for the help! 8)

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« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2008, 12:32:21 PM »
I would agree, the form of the tree is what throws me off..my money would be on a populus species as well,the leaves look similar to that of balsam or black poplar (populus balsamifera), but the form isnt even close...do you have a picture of the bare twig/buds available?

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Re: I have an unknown tree for identification
« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2009, 05:41:30 PM »
WDH 8)

Now I think we are getting somewhere, We have a red native mulberry in the back yard, I will compare the two of them tomorrow, but here is my concern.......There are no berries on this one, yet there are green flower buds in spring.

Robert :-\


mulberry have male and female trees so I would bet that to be a male if there is never any fruit. 


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