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First nail
« on: October 22, 2008, 07:00:43 PM »
Everything was going so good. Cutting sasifrass and cherry. My wife was off-bearing, everything was going ABCDEFG and then I saw a spark and another. The next cut the blade went limp and started rubbing the guide. It was getting dark anyway, so I'll just come home and watch the game. I will say, I've cut alot of wood so far, and this is the first hardware.  Just wanted to vent.
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Re: First nail
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2008, 07:14:36 PM »
yah...I was zzipping off some 2x6 earlier today and skinned the top of one of my dogs...didn't do much to the blade but knock the set out of a couple teeth and make the blade sing funny...it was already dull anyhow...needed an excuse to change it.
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Re: First nail
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2008, 07:16:50 PM »
Woody1,  That is a very strange story. I am not saying I don't believe it, just that it sounds kind of unusual  Hitting the nail is common, but having the wife off-bearing is not something that happens very often. :o ;D
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2008, 07:22:05 PM »
There are a few of us lucky sawyers on here. She like doing it and I like having her there ! ;) ;)
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Re: First nail
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2008, 08:03:18 PM »
Mine does it 5 days a week. Of course I have to pay her then I have to pay her again but that is all in the price of sawmilling. If you ask Dang or WDH they would tell you I got a bargin. I tend to agree.
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2008, 08:16:17 PM »
and then there is Bibby and the head sawyer at his place.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2008, 11:50:19 PM »
If you ask Dang or WDH they would tell you I got a bargin.

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Re: First nail
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2008, 05:31:51 AM »
My wife does 90% of the off-bearing.

It's great having her at the sawmill all day.

I feel very lucky having a wife who wants to be with me 24-7!
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Re: First nail
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2008, 08:30:57 AM »
Woody, I wish I could tell you thats the last tramp your going to hit,but that would trash the little respectability I have now.Depending how you hit them nails are not the end of the world,hit at right angle 16d and under not bad.Run upon parallel they mess up your set on one side.RRspikes,insulators, fence hardware,barbed wire,and drywall screws bad[ask Pineywoods].Nails if not too bad check for metal burr stuck to the face of the tooth flip it off with your jack knife straighten bent teeth.Frank C.
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Re: First nail
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2008, 04:40:31 PM »
If your saw went limp and moved over to the guides, you have taken the corners off of the log side of the saw.  Your saw started to cut out, due to one side of the tooth being longer than the other side, and that opened up your saw and heated it up down around the eye.  The heat caused it to get limp.

It may only be a few of the teeth that have lost the corners.  You'll have to swage the tooth out or change them.  Swaging is a quick fix if there isn't too much steel that's lost.  Use the spider gauge to get your corners even.

Was this one of your logs, or are you cutting someone else's?
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Re: First nail
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2008, 06:19:38 PM »
Ron..You are dead on, of course.  ;D. I resharpened and used your spider gauge at noon today. A couple of the teeth are cornerless. I am going to try my hand at swaging this weekend. I have new bits, but I want to play with this and see how it comes out. The logs were a deal with a guy who had a bunch of firewood right along the road. I didn't need it , but he said take all you want..Ok. Well, he need a few logs cut, What abunch of junk. Two t-tag loads of junk. But, a deals a deal. I an about done with them. I told Hunny " If I can cut this, I can cut anything". I'll get a picture of it tommorrow and post it. you won't believe it.
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Re: First nail
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2008, 06:56:01 PM »
Just remember that you want to swage from the center of the bit, not the corners.  If you swage on the corners, they'll just break off.
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2008, 07:34:01 PM »
I think I need aroad trip for some schoolin'.  :P :P
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Re: First nail
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2008, 08:41:26 PM »
Sorry woody,I thought you were talking band blade.I'am no authority on swageing but I know you must have a sharp edge to swage a dull blunt tooth takes too much force which is hard on the saws shoulders.Frank C.
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Re: First nail
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2008, 10:11:59 PM »
Just remember that you want to swage from the center of the bit, not the corners.  If you swage on the corners, they'll just break off.

I swaged corners for years and it served me well, unless I don't understand the term. :)  I struck the swedge twice per tooth. sliding it from one side of the toot hto the other for the alternating strikes. I have a link somewhere to how I did it. I'll see if I can find it.
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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2008, 10:14:18 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2008, 05:58:55 AM »
The swage should be used by spreading the steel from the middle of the tooth outwards.  I have seen lots of guys use that method and had used that when I first started.  After I started to swage from the center of the tooth, they held up better.

That's not to say that you can't swage your corners.  But, that makes the steel thin.  The corners is what does all the cutting, so you want it as heavy as possible.

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Re: First nail
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2008, 10:33:20 AM »
Maybe I got away with it because we sawed only exclusively debarked logs?  In fact, the mill shut down whenever the debarker happen to brake down as you couldn't get logs past it.
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Re: First nail
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2008, 12:11:40 PM »
I don't know anything about Aspen, but that may have been a factor as well.  A steady diet of Hickory might have made a difference.
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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2008, 04:36:36 PM »
Thanks Jeff and Ron. ;)
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