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Missouri pine tree identification
« on: October 26, 2009, 07:11:10 PM »
Is this a short leaf pine? Located in Southern Central Missouri Ozarks. Sunglasses on tree for sense of scale. 

 

That one had died but here is one of his neighbors.



 
Obviously I don't know my trees.  ;D
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Re: Missouri pine tree identification
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2009, 07:49:26 PM »
If it is shortleaf, there will be little round dimple shaped pitch pockets on the bark.
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Re: Missouri pine tree identification
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2009, 10:25:19 PM »
I didn't see the pitch pockets but may not know what I'm looking at.
I was over at the farm today.
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Re: Missouri pine tree identification
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 04:08:44 AM »
Looks plausible. I think it's the only native pine in that area isn't it?

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: Missouri pine tree identification
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 08:08:48 AM »
Sure looks like shortleaf to me.  The needles will be in bundles of mostly 2's, however, there can be a mix of 2's and 3's even on the same branch.  Loblolly always has only 3's. 
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Re: Missouri pine tree identification
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2009, 03:39:01 PM »
The needles also have two different shapes in x-section. One is semi round and the other is triangular. Might be something to do with shade, don't know.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: Missouri pine tree identification
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2009, 07:39:58 PM »
I'll check some of the other nearby pines (bark looks the same) the next time I'm over there to see what the needles look like. Thanks for the help.
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Re: Missouri pine tree identification
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2009, 07:54:10 AM »
CAver,

Take a close-up pic of the bark.
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Re: Missouri pine tree identification
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2009, 08:06:22 AM »
Will do if I can. That section in the photo of has been run through my mill. I still have the top section but the bark was falling off.
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Re: Missouri pine tree identification
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2009, 10:39:18 AM »
Here is a good page for ID for Shortleaf from Virginia Tech.

http://www.cnr.vt.edu/DENDRO/dendrology/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=101
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Re: Missouri pine tree identification
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2009, 05:46:09 AM »
Yes short leaf is native to  here and thats about all we have. We have some loblolly but thats been planted. We have some White but also planted. Go to the Missouri Depatment of  Conservataion and look up some info. To make sure.

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Re: Missouri pine tree identification
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2009, 06:00:31 AM »
Here is the MDC Link for ya to  look at Maybe it will help ya out. http://www.mdc.mo.gov/nathis/plantpage/flora/motrees/p5.htm

What part of southeast Mo you from Carver? Its nice to see another Missouri feller on here


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