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What is it
« on: February 27, 2010, 10:04:32 AM »
Need some help with ID please.  Tree was cut here in N.W. Arkansas.  Can take more photos if need be..Thanks RR




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Re: What is it
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2010, 12:05:06 PM »
Loox like Walnut to me.
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Re: What is it
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2010, 12:50:15 PM »
I'm not a pro but i think i could ID walnut....To give a little more detail....My friend and arborist (loosely said) brings me firewood.  Mostly Oak from his endeavors.  This tree he's calling "yellow maple".....I aint buy'n it.  Do i need a better picture of the bark.  It splits decent and is very heavy.
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Re: What is it
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2010, 11:06:56 PM »
Looks somewhat like black locust to me. But again the color is not right for locust.
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Re: What is it
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2010, 11:53:53 PM »
I am leaning to the Pigman camp.  The lack of sapwood is a black locust characteristic.  A better bark would help.
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Re: What is it
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2010, 12:46:16 AM »
woof woof.
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Re: What is it
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2010, 12:37:37 PM »
The bark has an x, or diamond looking pattern and the color and rings look like black locust to me too.
We just cut around twenty ricks for firewood and it splits like a dream.

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Re: What is it
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2010, 01:16:23 PM »
As a kid on t he farm in Mo I remember locust with huge thorns and on the trunk as well.  It does seem to be the same color best I can remember. 
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Re: What is it
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2010, 02:40:14 PM »
I'm subscribing to black locust as well
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Re: What is it
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2010, 03:22:26 PM »
I've noticed the smell of a freshly split piece of this.....reminds me of the odor of the holding pen on the dairy, on a wet day, after the Holsteins were all milked and gone!!!
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Re: What is it
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2010, 07:06:40 PM »
Roscoe,

Thorns on the trunk means that what you are describing is honeylocust.  Black locust has simple spines (like a rosebush thorn) that are oriented on the twigs at the base of every leaf petiole.  Both are in the legume family and have pods as fruit. 
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Re: What is it
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2010, 07:26:22 PM »
I've noticed the smell of a freshly split piece of this.....reminds me of the odor of the holding pen on the dairy, on a wet day, after the Holsteins were all milked and gone!!!

Smelt that good, huh?   ;D
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Re: What is it
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2010, 07:52:26 PM »
Does hickory have narrow sapwood like the walnuts? The bark doesn't look like black locust, which is thick, interlocked and fibrous. I think black locust heart has a yellowish brown tinge.

That's about the only two options I can see.

Unless the bark is spicy aromatic and the lumber looks like ash, then I would say sassafras.
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Re: What is it
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2010, 07:59:48 PM »
Does hickory have narrow sapwood like the walnuts? The bark doesn't look like black locust, which is thick, interlocked and fibrous. I think black locust heart has a yellowish brown tinge.

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Re: What is it
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2010, 08:08:45 PM »
Well black locust then.  ;)  But that bark sure doesn't look like it does up here. Cautiously optimistic. :D
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Re: What is it
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2010, 07:41:40 AM »
I don't know what it is but I don't think it's Black Locust. At least up here in Michigan the wood of B.L. has a greenish color to it. The photo below is a slab I cut recently. I'll try to get a picture of the end of a log later today.

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Re: What is it
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2010, 10:01:40 AM »
Dana I agree with you on the color. But, it appears to me there has been some staining going on and not that fresh a look at the log from the first photos.  But on the heartwood color of the posted photos above, it might be because of the lighting and photo optimizing, don't know. But there are only a few native trees with thin/narrow sapwood. The bark I see in the first pics is not right to me. Your bark looks like it does here as well.
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Re: What is it
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2010, 11:56:21 AM »
Sounds like i need to show a fresh look inside as well as a better bark....and not woof woof...ya can al'z count on a texican!!!!!  Think im gonna go with locust as well butttttt  i dont think there was any thorns......
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Re: What is it
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2010, 01:00:04 PM »
some new shots in the gallery...i think..
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Re: What is it
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2010, 01:58:43 PM »
I  was out to the farm and got a couple photos of a Black Locust log. I intentionally copied Roscoe234 photo aspect and now I have changed my mind. I think it is B.L. When I first cut the logs they were very green in appearance. Looking at them now as a few weeks has gone by, the fresh cut wood is turning brown. not as brown as Roscoes, but his may have been earlier. Also mine has that same small ring of white sap wood. 



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