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Got my bandmill today
« on: October 27, 2003, 01:58:15 PM »
      Got my bandmill today 8). If you promise, no laughing!!! I'll tell ya what I got. I won't be get'n off the porch and runnin with the big dogs. Got me a Hudson Forest 18" bandmill. Oughta suit my needs for a while anyway.
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Re: Got my bandmill today
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2003, 02:20:29 PM »
Congratulations!  Ive not got any direct experience with the Hud-Son mill but they build quite a bit of equipment and attachments.  They even feature Wood-Mizer blades!



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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2003, 02:25:06 PM »
M-B,
The Hudson band mill is as good as any to start learning on. If you go to the automated mills at a later time, you will have 75% of the sawmill learning done. Ask questions if you run into problems and we will help.

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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2003, 02:34:14 PM »
You betcha Bibbyman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D INow that I got that piture upload thing figured out, I'll send pics too. This forum is really neat. I've learned so much just reading the posts and asking questions. Everyone is more than glad to share their knowledge. :P I belonged to a forum of folks that collect Aladdin mantle lamps.(another hobby of mine) Man!!!!!!!!!! some of those guys were less than forthcoming without some jing. >:( This is quite refreshing and I can say I will make less mistakes by having read the posts
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2003, 02:48:28 PM »
MB,
Congrats on the new mill. You're hooked now. Should be a great mill to learn on. Do have lots of fun.
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2003, 03:14:55 PM »
Ain't sawed my first board yet but I'm hooked. :D ;D
I deal with a boat Marina at work and it is always the same. A new customer with a 21 foot cabin boat will come back the next year, "Hey Rick, I sold that little boat and got this 38' cabin cruiser." Same with bandmills I believe ;D :D
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2003, 03:39:55 PM »
Rick,
If you're after quality lumber you can run with the big dogs all day long.  Might take a little experience and tweaking to get there but it is an easy goal to achieve.

Seems to me taking a tree from a raw resource into a musical instrument would be quite an achievement.

Looking into my crystal ball I can see a kiln in your near future.

Aladdin lamps!!  Wow, I like them to.  Fred Kottman -- Pink Barn Antiques -- right down the road from me.  Has a huge inventory of lamps and parts.  Like to look but scared to touch some of them.

Good luck.
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2003, 04:11:44 PM »
whew...don't get me started on hobbies, I've got too many to count!   :D
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2003, 04:23:15 PM »
Larry,
    That was the mistake I made with the lamps. Although I gotta tell ya, I've gotten some great deals on some of these things. I have a collection now worth enough to send my daughter to college for a year. Better than money markets! May have to sell some to get that bigger mill next year ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D 8)
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2003, 04:27:03 PM »
   Congrats on the new mill.Hudson has a very good reputation,and goog looking mills,and yep,you.re hooked
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2003, 04:30:15 PM »
Heya M.B.
Congrats on the new mill. Exciting times, been there. What type of instruments you into?? I can get you some Sitka if you use that type of wood. It grows wild around here, the sweetbutts are usually gobbled up at astronomical prices but every so often a sweetheart sneeks thru. There are a few guys with resaws here cutting guitar tops from the handsplit bolts they make first. Ill bet you could do that on your mill easy.... 8)
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2003, 04:40:52 PM »
Percy,
    I made a mandolin that turned out so, so. I play guitar so it seemed logical  to build that. I am in the middle of one now that I bought as a kit and plan on using my wood with their plans. I have a couple of friends that build dulcimers and are looking for local woods.
    Sitka and engleman are the woods of choice for tops. I live on the east coast. If there is some kinda wood I could get for you, maybe we could do a "wood exchange " program. I'd love to get some sitka. One of the problems I have is finding a local wood that is suitable for tops. I'm looking at Virginia cedar as a possibility.
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2003, 05:07:46 PM »
Hey Rick.
I play guitar as well. I have a yamaha accoustic(o.k.) and a yamaha classical(uggh) and a couple of Fender strats(one of em is just the best thing I ever played..spensive). Yea we have the Engleman as well up here. It may take a while but mebey I can get you a top or two outta these local tone wood guys.
Post a pic of the mandolin and guitar when its done/you have the time.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2003, 05:43:59 PM »
Percy,
I have a Gretch acoustic, pretty nice. I have a Nagoya 12 string,, real sweet. Bought it when I was in college in 1974. My favorite!!! I hope to make a 12 string outa the Osage Orange tree I got lined up. I was figuring I would have to buy a top from the supply I deal with.(stewart Mac) Fla Deadheader is going to share a piece of cypress for me to put ona guitar too. I'll post a pic of that mando soon.
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2003, 06:02:15 PM »
I have a 57 gibson hollow body geetar es125 and the mandolin to go with it along with the original vacuum tube amp with reverb and tremelo. Also have a washburn accustic.
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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2003, 06:11:14 PM »
Jeff,
   That gibson be worth some buck-a-zolees :o. Mando too :o :o
Lota people I know goin back to the old school amps. Seems the digial ain't cuttin it for,em. I like bluegrass and Appalachia mountain\folk music best. Been known to do a blues lick or two.
Need to do what the mountain men used to do. Have a rendevous. Drinkin, sawin, and git fiddle-in. In that order ..............maybe.   8)
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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2003, 07:08:20 PM »
Its only worth bucks after I'm gone. :)  Dad bought the pair from one of his friends that was dying from kidney disease. He wanted someone to have them that would appreciate them. He gave me the guitar for my 10th birthday. The mandolin came to me the day Dad died.
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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2003, 07:22:18 PM »
I understand !!
    I certainly didn't mean to equate the value solely on money. There is no price on sentimental value. In todays antique musical instrument market, the old instruments are valued because of their craftmanship,attention to detail, and the people that played them. don't mean to sound presumptious, but sounds like your Dad passed that onto you. what a great legacy!!!
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2003, 03:46:49 AM »
Not to change the topic from musical instruments, but I got the "Oscar 18" a couple weeks ago.  Cut some walnut, a few problems with the crotches, and the log dogs are time consuming; it seems like most of the work is setting up.  The engine appears strong enough for what I'll be doing, aspen logs over the next couple days on the big island.  We, three sons and I, are cutting wood instead of deer hunting, talk about priority adjustment.  
Music_Boy. Keep up to date on little things with the mill and I'll do the same for you.  By the way, you might want to add lock washers to the cover bolts, if you haven't already, they tend to loosen from the vibration.

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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2003, 04:12:03 AM »
dtody,
     I'll add those washers. Did you find the instructions wanting for detail??? I got it late yesterday and haven't had time to set it up. I did raise and lower the head. Needed to adjust the guides a tad to keep it from hanging up at the top. I also noticed the head was un-level at the top so I adjusted the one side with the eyelet bolt. I've got a set of boat trailer axles I want to add, and then I'll ramp the logs up. I'm thinkin an electric winch with some heavy webbing will work. Got a small hydraulic jack at Walmart that I think Ican rig to make a toe board out of.  
    If your log is slightly over 18", can you lop off the top and bottom and have it fit? I got a couple of cherry logs that are like 20".
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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2003, 12:41:07 PM »
"Wanting" is a mild way to describe the manual.  A line-drawn picture of a set-up mill would have been nice, at least.  Do you have the Carter guides?  Adjust them in/out if the log is irregular, it keeps the blade more level.  My little sack had the bolts, no nuts and I still haven't figured out where the double headed nails go, except to nail the 90angle to hold the track down???

This site is great about everyone respecting the type of mill someone has.  There seems to be a sense of community with a similar interest that some other sites lack.  The kidding around on this site always seems positive. Group Hug time!

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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2003, 06:02:29 PM »
You got a sack of nuts ? I got the standard roller bearing guides. Figured they'd be o.k. I played around adjusting the bearings today. I finally just took the whole bearing assembly off and started from scratch. I think it is a good mill, but why didn't they use square stock instead of round. You get one bearing set, then tighten and evrything moves. Abit frustratng. I think I have it figured out though. I can't play with it til Thurs. I have a sears laser level that I think Ican rig up to this mill. If it wirks, I'll piture it and post it.
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« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2003, 11:33:33 AM »
A sack of six bolt, no nuts, must be the "eunuch model."  The frame that holds the engine and blade apparatus is on square 1 1/8" steel, is yours round?

I'm going after logs this weekend, should have plenty to post.  Pictures too.

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« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2003, 03:31:04 PM »
The steel holding the blade guides is round. I think square there would make life better. Hopefully will have my guides adjusted tomorrow. Supposed to pick up a Persimmon log tomorrow that being held for me from the Hurricane. Might have some pics myself. Looking forward to yours ;D
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« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2003, 06:47:13 PM »
Hey read your posts about getting your mill. I think you will enjoy working with Hud-son's bandsaws. They really are a lot of fun to work with. I have had a Hud-son bandmill for about 8 months now and they are really the way cut wood. They are great mills ,one thing you will want to do is put some washers on the blade guards they have a bad habit of rattling off in the middle of a cut which is a big pain. It sounds like you were to do this from some of the previous posts. I had to work with  mine a bit to get the saw its self  level with the track system.  Well good luck. And straight cutting.       HUNTER700

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« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2003, 07:54:37 PM »
Hey HUNTER700.  Good to see another Alaskan poster on board.  Funny how you folks tend to post here when the weather gets cold, then disappear in the summer. :D  Sounds like you've been having fun with your mill. How about some details?
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« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2003, 12:47:47 PM »
got the oscar 36 and for what I'm doing it is great.  I didnt get the trailer package because i do most of the cutting by myself and would have a hard time getting the logs on the carrage. Good advice on the lock nuts. In reality my saw really only cuts about 30-32 inch diameter without trouble. After that it gets tricky rotating the logs. Hopefully you got the most horsepower available as it seams to really make a difference.  You will find that pushing the saw during the cut is a non issue as the saw roles extreamly well. I found that lubing the blade with anything with more viscosity than water or rv antifreeze tends to increase the occurance of throwing blades.  I love my Hud Son and boughtit with the understanding that my sawing was going to be a weekend hobby.  I have more than paid of the 7 grand it cost me in the 7 months I have thus far had it.  My only experience with blades so far are the woodmizer blades recomended by the company and have let to have any problems.  The worst part about having the mill is that i cant seam to find enough time to run it.  I now have about 10-12 thousand bd/ft stickered but dont really know what I am going to do with it. I guess thats a problem that alot of people would like to have though.
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« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2003, 04:01:41 PM »
Thanks Norwiscutter;
     Actually, I asked for the 8 hp engine. They told me the 5.5 was plenty and the 8 wouldn't fit anyway. 5.5 outa be o.k. Appreciated the info on the blades and lube. There seems to be a myriad of formulas and advice there.hudson told me soapy water but most everyone else suggests mix of diesal and oil. Maybe Hudson knows the belt will fly.I'm already begining to think I should have gone with the 28. At the time I was "squeaking" across the decision line. I figure if things go like alot of others. I'll upgrade to a larger mill. Shoudn't have trouble selling this mill.
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« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2003, 04:44:59 PM »
Before you start mixing that diesel and oil, try the water and soap, or just plain water.  In real sappy wood, I use a lot of water, but it's cheap and leaves no odor and is not hazardous to the environment.  The exception is when it is below freezing, then water becomes a problem.
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« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2003, 05:34:48 PM »
The reason I got the bigger model was because I have a lot of trees that are over 20 inch.  Everthing I have cut so far has been pine and cedar.  The smaller sticks that you will be dealing with should be no problem with the 5.5 as long as you watch the feed rate. Did you get that handy dandy trailer package?  I like the idea of being able to pull it with a four wheeler.  Should be able to get it back in to some of those places reserved for an alaskan mill. Will be interested to see what kind of production rate you can get with that saw.  Good luck.
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« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2003, 06:15:29 PM »
I didn't get the trailer package. I have a set of boat trailer axels that plan to cut down to fit. with a tow hitch and level . A small ramp with a boat winch outa take the back strain out of loading logs.
    Got the bearing guides set today and set the track up. Fired the engine up and all looks good so far. Gota get me a log.
    I like the soapy water deal best. Hate the smaell of diesel on wood. Try to be as environmentally oriented as I can.
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« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2003, 08:40:19 PM »
hello music boy, just wanting to say howdy and my experience here at the forum started early this spring and I had a whole farm full of trees and a head full of ideas and with the help of everyone here I was able to saw my own logs and it is a blast ,even when I have something go wrong I know I got the forum for support, I got a big grizzly shop bandsaw but I got a circular mill that I saw logs with. Been playing a Gibson 5 string bluegrass banjo for 20 years and a Fender Telecaster for the same doing the rock-a-billy thang ! Lookin forward to seeing your pictures and hearing your sawing stories, lots of luck !
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« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2003, 10:40:10 AM »
I used my little saw last Thursday, four hours, couple hundred board feet.  I'll have to figure out a cleaning method for the dirt.  Blade rises when it gets dull.  Re-cutting the length of my wood, 9' max now.  Log dogs limit smallest cut to about 3" high.  A lot of adjusting for a good cut, but I haven't found it yet.  A toe board might help.  Cutting stickers was a challenge, but I got some.  

We went back to felling trees Friday and Saturday, around 30+, got a spalted maple log, 2' by 10"/12" wide, nice pattern and one doe early.

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