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Re: Does a poacher **** in the woods?
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2010, 01:27:38 PM »
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First of all, I want you to know that I do not want you , or anyone else here, to think it's my place to be in judgment of you.  I have wanted to castrate the poachers that have repeatedly come on my land, or traversed my land, to hunt illegally.  Reading the posts again, some would handle it in much the same way you did, others would not.  It is a great topic, in my view, because it has so many levels of personal decision, with a wide spectrum of responses from people in similar and quite different situations.  I just wish I had a hot tub overlooking my property so that I could share it with my wife and a glass of wine too.  Best to you.  doctorb
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Re: Does a poacher **** in the woods?
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2010, 08:39:41 PM »
All is good. :D
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Re: Does a poacher **** in the woods?
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2010, 08:06:28 AM »
A few years ago I heard coyotes south of the house after dark and walked out there with the Mini-14 for a look see.  No coyotes but just as I turned around to head back a couple carloads of what sounded like teenagers stopped out on the road, got out slammed doors and started hooting, hollering and having a good time.  I emptied the ten round mag in the opposite direction of them and listened.  Cars doors slammed and tires squealed as they made their getaway  ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D  I about fell down I was laughing so hard  ;D 8) :D :D :D
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Re: Does a poacher **** in the woods?
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2010, 09:07:15 AM »
A few years ago I heard coyotes south of the house after dark and walked out there with the Mini-14 for a look see.  No coyotes but just as I turned around to head back a couple carloads of what sounded like teenagers stopped out on the road, got out slammed doors and started hooting, hollering and having a good time.  I emptied the ten round mag in the opposite direction of them and listened.  Cars doors slammed and tires squealed as they made their getaway  ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D  I about fell down I was laughing so hard  ;D 8) :D :D :D

That is what I carry in the truck out when I am out at the farm, a mini14 ranch rifle,  it has a collapsible stock and fits in a small case along with 3-30 rd mags of good quaility factory hunting ammo. Coyotes are a problem here. I put a bipod on it and it with the leupold scope it shoots nice :)
The way i see it is there are a couple issues in this thread. Poaching can be a problem i have 100+ acres of prime hunting/farm land that anybody in there right mind would love to be able to hunt on, and would be easy (potentially :D) to trespass on because 2 different dead end roads come in to it and I am an absentee owner no one lives there, and it borders a river & state owned land. I've never let anyone hunt on it except for 1 year and they bagged a 450# bear, this year there is a huge buck running along a ridge right next to my barn, the 2nd night of gun deer dear season here he came and made the biggest rubs on trees I have seen in probably 20 years and the reason is because I am able to make sure no body goes on there or even walks in to it all year long including hunting season. This year it was easy because there was snow on the ground for most of deer season so people are hesitant to blatantly trespass. To keep trespassers and away some of the things I have done are put gates up on all the entrances to my property. That eliminates all the people who just drive down every road they find and there are a lot of those. Keeps people off the farm fields too. Another thing is like I mentioned I know the game wardens. Twice during deer season when I was out at the property I saw the wardens drive down the road checking hunters and they always want to know about any illegal activity in regards to trespass, they enforce that here, or game law violations. They handle all of that no problem. All of the private property owners around there now watch out for that type of stuff and the amount of it that happens has really decreased poaching a deer here is expensive if caught.
Now for other illegal activities we have that here also, now we do for sure. My home is located in a large area of national forest that has now in the last 2ple years become popular for large marijuana grow operations. Apparently it is easier and more$$ to ship illegal people up here to grow the stuff rather than transport it,, I know of several bear hunters who have found the stuff and just backed out of there and alerted authorities. These were large enough operations that I am certain the people would have been armed and dangerous. I'd let the authorities handle that stuff though if I knew it was happening that is 1st thing, my tax dollars pay them to take care of it! supposed too :D,,,  I can see the value of letting would be or actual thieves/poachers/or what have you know that you are armed and dangerous(wink wink) :D...obviously :D :D :D but I couldn't imagine myself ever wanting to shoot someone or ever risk it happening unless I or another person was threatened with immediate and serious danger  :( >:(



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Re: Does a poacher **** in the woods?
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2010, 08:46:52 AM »
I am of the belief that the more folks who know that a couple of crazy old farts who shoot guns lives down our road, the better!! Norm lets the entire area know this quite frequently! While we have never shot anyone, yet, they do need to be aware that the potential is there, and they need to respect that. One never knows what kind of creep may wander down here with none of my best interests at heart. I want them to know their lives are in danger if they step onto my land. We have a cemetery as our closest neighbor (kinda handy, eh?) and this cemetery just seems to attract bad people. Police have arrested meth heads and just plain spooky people hanging out there.

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« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2010, 11:21:19 AM »
I am of the belief that the more folks who know that a couple of crazy old farts who shoot guns lives down our road, the better!!

That's pretty much the way I have handled the situation.  I have made it a point to be seen with a .45 on my hip, and to be outside at strange hours.  Sure people think I'm wierd, but that's what I want.  People tend to be afraid to mess with wierd folks. ;D  It doesn't hurt to put a couple of rounds into a tree stump occasionally, either, most especially at night.  The neighbors all know what I'm doing, so it doesn't alarm them, but it does alarm the dipsticks that like to make drug deals at the bottom of the hill.  A Q-beam on them seems disturbing to them as well.  There's all sorts of ways to scare them off without actually firing in their direction.
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Re: Does a poacher **** in the woods?
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2010, 03:31:15 PM »
Tresspassers are discouraged by gunfire......my place is at the end of a dead end 1/2 mile gravel road...any late night travelers will be greeted with 20 gauge...just the sound in this holler reverberates like a howitzer....I learned the hard way after being broken in back in 80'.....I help lost hikers/hunters...but draw lines when needed....old TR Roosevelt said best.."speak softly, but carry a big stick"..or shotgun...happy holidays fellow woodsmen :)

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Re: Does a poacher **** in the woods?
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2010, 04:20:33 PM »
Lost hunters/hikers are not trespassers?  At what point do you recognize which is which, and when the big gun comes out?   ::)
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« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2010, 06:56:58 PM »
We shoot often on our property and my son brings his buddies over to shoot also.I figure it as a deterrent to undesirables. Like Dang I walk around with my Glock on my belt.
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Re: Does a poacher **** in the woods?
« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2010, 11:35:29 AM »
i have a turkish 98 mauser, 8mm. and to say it is loud is an understatement. on a clear cold nite you can hear it rolling like thunder thru the area. even stops the yotes from howling.

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Re: Does a poacher **** in the woods?
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2010, 10:05:11 PM »
Lost folks generally just want to find their way out.....have no malice/intent.....as stated prior, some would take advantage of a situation....so no, you don't need to be a wild eyed outlaw yourself....just a good judge of character...and now for a literary suggestion...the book "Trail Safe...Averting Threatening Human Behavior in the Outdoors"..by Michael Bane....he covers a lot of situations...most of all just use some common sense....check it out

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Re: Does a poacher **** in the woods?
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2010, 10:34:22 PM »
Forget no trespassing signs. I know of another sign that works much better. It reads " if I find you here tonight they will find you here in the morning" Saw it in a junk yard once. I hate to say it but it is only going to get worse with the hand slapping judges out there. The day will come when we have to take the law in our own hands or submit to thieves and poachers.

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Re: Does a poacher **** in the woods?
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2010, 08:48:19 AM »
A small sign a couple hundred feet inside the gate reads
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If you are reading this be aware that;
You have set off an alarm.
Your picture has been taken.
You are in range.
Just cause your head's pointed, don't mean you are sharp.

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Re: Does a poacher **** in the woods?
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2010, 08:59:22 AM »
Well this Post Took Off a Bit, So Here's My Slant and Personal Experience (don't need a reply, it's all free to anybody).

I nearly shot a man when I was 14... all by dumb accident. We had a little shooting area that was right behind our house that was up against the hill side. My dad had shot there for years and we had lot's of fun and right out the back door of our farm house.

It was on a Saturday and I had set cans up on fence post's that were up against the hill. I was hitting them with my 22 rifle. I had a 2 boxes of 22 shells and having lot's of fun hitting the cans. I had been shooting for about a 3/4 of an hour and saw Mr. Binkley come driving up in his car. He was pretty mad and asked it I knew what I was doing ?  I said, ya, just shooting some cans. Mr. Binkley said, I can see that and the bullets are hiting in the tree's by my cottage.  I was shook.. when he told me this; I told him that I had No Idea that this was happening. He left in a huff and I thought about everything and how I could have killed or injured someone.  The 22 bullets had the perfect arc to fly over this little hill and come down at his cottage 1/2 mile away. I remember that it say's, range one mile on the 22 shells. This was a Lesson I Never Forgot ! ! !

Regarding the Poacher Issue, I just had my garage broke into and thousand's of dollars of tools taken in PA.  I'm very angry and if I was there at the time, my gun would have come out to defend what is mine. I believe that if you come in my house and building's... you are in a high risk area to your welfare (because you threaten my life).

Returning fire to the area that is suspected to have poacher's in it... is another thing. Someone said, that once the word or the bullet comes out, it's too late to pull it back, I buy that 100%. Killing or Injuring someone by random fire is Not a Good Thing to live with and would haunt you to the end of your life. Taking someone's life and seeing the end result's of death is Not a Good Thing. Trust Me, Killing or causing Serious Injury to Someone is Your Last Day of Life (except in personal defense).... the Good Life that You (once) Enjoyed is Over (forever) !  

Once You've Crossed this (taken life) Bridge, it's like digging a hole and climbing in, you'll (most people) live a living hell !  Some folks here on the FF have taken life and pulled the trigger or directed guns or rocket's to kill and this was your (military) mission. However, after time has gone by... it's still never quite right and everyone has their own personal demon's inside & haunting memories.... it's all part of killing guilt and much more.    

I need no reply, just sharing information for anyone to use. TV & Movie's Glamorize it, most that have (killing)... Despise It !

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