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Which glue?
« on: December 20, 2011, 03:57:47 AM »
I split a piece of pine 2X material that I need to glue back together.  It won't be exposed to the elements.  Should I use yellow woodworkers glue or urethane (gorilla) glue?  And why?
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Re: Which glue?
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2011, 05:25:35 AM »
As long as you can get a good spread of glue and clamp it up properly while it cures, it wont matter. Modern wood glues are stronger than wood anyway. If it fails again, it wont be at the glue line.

Save the Gorilla glue for when you need it waterproof, it's a messy overkill for normal work.

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Re: Which glue?
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2011, 06:19:40 AM »
Lepages or Titebond will do it. As Ian said it's stronger than the wood bonds. I find Lepages to be the strongest carpenter glue, but I use Titebond because I can buy it cheaper by the gallon jug. Both glues made in Ohio.
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Re: Which glue?
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2011, 10:04:45 AM »
I would use the titebond glue. I use a lot of it, about 10 gallons a year, and have never had a glue joint failure with it. Just make sure you wipe of any excess real well with water or it will not allow your stain to penetrate that area

I would be hesitant to use the gorilla glue as it has a tendency to expand and push parts apart when it cures. It would however be good for repair a very loose chair leg assembly, or any other assembly that has a lot of play in the joint due to its expansion property, but just make sure you clamp it well or it will tend to push the joint apart as it expands.
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Re: Which glue?
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2011, 09:57:36 PM »
I like the titebond 3. Like any good glue make sure that you have a good coat on all the surface. It has been good for me. bg

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Re: Which glue?
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2011, 01:41:45 AM »
ok, Thanks for the input guys.  Titebond it is.
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Re: Which glue?
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2011, 02:25:08 PM »
I like Titebond, too. But if you do butcher block that you plan on planing with knives, kiss the knives goodbye.

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Re: Which glue?
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2011, 02:43:00 PM »
Why's that Den?

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Re: Which glue?
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2011, 04:39:40 PM »
Are we talking Titebond III here?

There are many different Titebond glues.
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Re: Which glue?
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2011, 06:21:09 PM »
If you're asking me, I'm not sure.  I know I have titebond in the shop, red label I think.  Maybe it's titebond II?

What should one use if doing a butcher block style glue up and planing?
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Re: Which glue?
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2011, 06:52:54 PM »
Some magazine (years ago) did a test of glues and found Titebond II was stronger than III. III is for use in wet conditions. At least that's how I remember it.
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Re: Which glue?
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2011, 10:03:15 PM »
I use Titebond 2, it's waterproof (interior/exterior) and can be used on butcher block.

Lepages is interior and has 2 tonnes of bonding strength.
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Re: Which glue?
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2011, 10:18:46 PM »
I use Titebond 2, it's waterproof (interior/exterior) and can be used on butcher block.

I've got to correct you, Bill. II is water-resistant, III is water-proof. III has a longer open time and is good to use on oily woods.
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Re: Which glue?
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2011, 11:49:28 PM »
Brad...use titebond III. It has a longer tack time. It is in fact stronger than II. I have tested both extenively. Both will work fine for your application, but TB III will work better.
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Re: Which glue?
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2011, 12:35:44 AM »
I use Devcon 2 ton epoxy for cutting boards,no proplem with planning.

I also use Titebond II&III depending on moisture levels to deal with.
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Re: Which glue?
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2011, 12:47:11 AM »

I found a reference to the testing done by Wood magazine--somewhat dated, and, as I remembered, Titebond II was found to be stronger than Titebond III. Gorilla was found to be much better than both in the submersion test.

http://www.diyprojects.info/bb/ftopic70-0-asc-0.html

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Re: Which glue?
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2011, 04:43:33 AM »
Doug, your right. The word over the little ducky on the label is "weatherproof". My brain registered it as waterproof. Seems like it must be waterproof though (rain is water), but maybe that refers to submersion. ;D
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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2011, 08:53:16 AM »
Norm, One time I made a counter with strips of tropical hardwoods and Titebond II. I ran it through my planer with new knives. The knives ended up nicked. I always blamed the glue joints. I would be glad to be corrected if the glue didn't do the nicks. The counter is still laying in the shop. Den

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Re: Which glue?
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2011, 09:43:57 AM »
Hardened glue will nick your knives. 

After the glue firms up a bit, I always scrape off the squeeze out.  That lets the glue up sit flat on the planer bed, too.  It also reduces he chance of nicking the knife. 

If the glue up is going straight to the sander, I scrape off all traces of excess glue on the surface. I have ruined too many drum sanding strips by being impatient with scraping glue.
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« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2011, 09:45:44 AM »
Thanks Den, I'm about to make up an end grain cutting board. I used Titebond II for it but I have a spiral cutterhead in my planer. I was going to just run it through my drum sander but now Chris has be wondering which way to go.


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