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« on: January 03, 2012, 08:41:00 AM »
A few things before i order a lt 40 mill..... :)   r the performance blade guides worth the 200.........should it get the extra side supports .......and just to make it interesting and would like to hear the whys........walk....ride......or remote.......
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Re: looking for input
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2012, 08:51:58 AM »
Personally, "No" on the blade guides.  They take up throat space and limit the size log that you can saw. 

"No" on the extra side supports unless most of your logs will be 8' or less.  Then it depends upon whether you want to take a few steps to raise the manual side supports.  If you will be continually sawing short stuff, then "Yes".

I ride which puts me closer to the sawing action which I like.  But, it you have an "ill wind", you can not just move the console to get out of the blowing sawdust.  I have been very miserable sawing sometimes, but since I grew up with an operator's seat, I probably would choose that option again.
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Re: looking for input
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2012, 09:09:59 AM »
I agree with Magicman on the blade guides, if those are the ones that have the bottom support. If a blade is gonna dive, its going to dive. The extra side supports may be a good thing, depending on what you think you will ever cut. You can always use the manual ones, but I think that is one feature I would put in there. I can't see any downside to it, outside of cost. Concerning the seat-what do you plan on cutting? The seat does help when you are doing grade cutting. It also shortens the distance you can cut, though the seat removes pretty easily. If you are doing a lot of specialty cutting such as quartersawn, it is nice to be right there, rub the dust off, and see what you have. But as he said, it can be miserable for the operator when the wind isn't right. Also, if you are working alone and have to offbear, it can be a pain. Think about what you plan on cutting, taking into account any changes to future plans you think might happen.

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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2012, 09:19:42 AM »
One other point on the side supports.  When sawing knotty or gnarly logs, the extra supports can be a real pain or a real help depending upon where they contact the log.  With the manual, you can raise or lower one to contact or move it away from an irregularity.  With the powered side supports, they are all 4 there whether you want them or not.
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2012, 09:27:06 AM »
One other point on the side supports.  When sawing knotty or gnarly logs, the extra supports can be a real pain or a real help depending upon where they contact the log.  With the manual, you can raise or lower one to contact or move it away from an irregularity.  With the powered side supports, they are all 4 there whether you want them or not.
Exactly, the reason why I've not coupled in my manual uprights.  Sometimes I really need to adjust one different from the other.   But might be a wash overall with the times I wish I could power them down.  Hey maybe one could design a linkage that would send them up or down under hydraulic control, but still let one or the other be pulled manually further up???
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2012, 09:29:57 AM »
KDEC19
I have the Hi-Performance blade guides on my mill, well, they're not really on the mill, they're sitting on the sharpening bench.

I was told by the folks at Wood-Mizer Hannibal that the Hi-Performance blade guides really come into play when you have a mill with the larger engines, not 20-25 hp.  They were on the mill when I bought it.

Also, they do limit how big and how small you can cut.
They will hit the clamp on my mill if I'm cutting 1 inch lumber.

The reason they are on my bench is because I'm going to go to Hannibal and get myself a set of the original blade guide rollers!

When I do that, I'll find out what I could expect to get for the H-P set, because they're up for sale.

I think that if I were ordering a new LT40, I'd opt for the other 2 side supports to be hydraulic.
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Re: looking for input
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2012, 11:21:34 AM »
I have the HP blade guides on mine. No complaints so far.

However, I have the extra side supports. I love them!

I saw a lot of 5 and 6 foot slabs from large Oak and Walnut. I saw them for bench builders and furniture makers.

I get a lot of logs from Tree Service guys and sometimes a 5 - 6 foot and sometimes 4 foot log with a large diameter is all the weight they can pick up. I just HATE to see that short wood go to waste.

So I guess it just depends what market you plan on sawing in.

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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2012, 01:26:33 PM »
also thoughts on the 28 hp gas vs 38 gas...do not have the pesos for diesel.  >:(to me it seems like 800 more for the hp might be worth it pull through big logs...
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2012, 02:39:58 PM »
More power more better.    More power more better.    More power more better.    More power more better.    More power more better.    More power more better.   
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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2012, 02:40:46 PM »
Did I mention get as much power as you can and then a little more

Ohh Yea    More power more better.   
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2012, 07:29:11 PM »
I have the linked supports and while I'll admit they've gotten in the way a few times, I wouldn't want to be without them. Many times a customer has short logs, they also work great for 8-9 footers that are slightly off center. I normally walk, but I have a seat that I use sometimes, usually at the end of a long week when my feet are getting a little tired. The remote looks nice but the track is in a bad spot if a beam or log falls off the mill, also there alot of long wires flexing with each pass of the head, might be trouble after several thousand hours.
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Re: looking for input
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2012, 08:20:41 PM »
I like the remote. I havent tried the walk or ride. I dont use my manual supports that much. But if someone gave me some hydraulic supports Id take them.
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2012, 09:03:36 PM »
Hello
I like the extra side supports. The mills I see with it on have less issues with back supports needing alighned. So I would guess the extra area gives less stress on just two.
I usually add the guides if I have over 40 hp you must also add lube mizer option. If you push the mill to the limit they will do what they are designed to do.
I like the command control mill on the Super. They have increased the up down motor size which increased up down speed on the standard LT40.
The 29 hp Kohler works great. There is a big difference from the 28hp Kohler. The 28 and the 29 are fuel injected and the 38 hp is carb.

Not sure if my opinion counts, but you asked.

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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2012, 10:08:32 PM »
Get the biggest engine you can afford...sacrifice toys for horsepower if necessary.
I have no opinion on the back supports, other than I thonk they are great, bit should be releaseable with a pin or something..

I am not fond of the remote with the cable track....to be fair, I have never used them...but twenty years of being an electronics tech in a harsh environment leads me to shy away from anything that puts cable through a mechanical assembly like a cable track.....I have just rebuilt too many cables. Now that wireless remote....that thing interests me.
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2012, 05:37:57 PM »
I have the extra back supports. I am always cutting short logs for customers. Thats just one more service you can provide. ;)

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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2012, 09:56:04 PM »
I have the bibby backstop mod, I like it.
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