The Forestry Forum is sponsored in part by:

Draw for handbuilt acoustic guitar get your name in


Forestry Forum
Sponsored by:


TimberKing Sawmills



Toll Free 1-800-582-0470

LogRite Tools



Norwood Industries Inc.


Sawmill & Woodlot Magazine



Your source for Portable Sawmills, Edgers, Resaws, Sharpeners, Setters, Bandsaw Blades and Sawmill Parts

EZ Boardwalk Sawmills. More Saw For Less Money!

STIHLDealers.com sponsored by Northeast STIHL


Woodland Sawmills

Peterson Swingmills

 KASCO SharpTech WoodMaxx Blades

Turbosawmill

Sawmill Exchange

BRUTE FORCE Authorized Dealer

Woodshax Outdoor Vending Solutions

FARMA


Council Tool

Baker Products

ECHO-Bearcat



Author Topic: virginia pine  (Read 5993 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline SwampDonkey

  • Forester
  • *
  • Posts: 35776
  • Age: 51
  • Location: Centreville, NB
  • Gender: Male
  • Large Tooth
    • Share Post
Re: virginia pine
« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2012, 04:32:57 AM »
They stamp jack pine lumber under the SFP grade up here. I was wondering if they stamp VP under the same grade down there. Both pine look about the same and plantation jack pine is pretty knarly stuff. Wild jack pine grown thick is a world of difference in quality. Straight as guns and limb free for several feet. Irvings buy jack pine logs at their stud mill in Sussex. It's an on and off again proposition with those guys though, no matter what they are buying. 8 foot at around $60/mt or $66/ton, min 4-1/2" top, 13 max on the but. When you drive down around there, it's miles and miles of jack pine.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

'If she wants to play lumberjack, she's going to have to learn to handle her end of the log.'
Dirty Harry

Offline WDH

  • Forester
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 27157
  • Age: 64
  • Location: Perry, GA
  • Gender: Male
  • April 1998 - August 2008
    • Share Post
    • hamsleyhardwood.com
Re: virginia pine
« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2012, 07:18:46 AM »
I am sure that some of it gets mixed in the the regular 4 commercial species of southern yellow pine.

Okra,

Longleaf pine and loblolly have a different branching habit.  The end of the branches where that round pom pom is located are very stout, at least twice the size of the end of the branches of loblolly.  Like the difference between a 1" - 1.5" dowel and a pencil.  Very distinctive, plus the long drooping needles and the big cones.  You can tell them apart going 60 MPH down the road.
Woodmizer LT40HDD35, John Deere 2155, Kubota M5640SU, Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln, and a passion for all things with leafs, twigs, and bark.  hamsleyhardwood.com

Offline Okrafarmer

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 6417
  • Age: 40
  • Location: upcountry SC-- Sweetgum capital of the world!
  • Gender: Male
  • Avast! Here appeareth some sweetgummery about....
    • Share Post
Re: virginia pine
« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2012, 07:57:59 AM »
I'm sure I will be able to tell them apart going 60 mph down the road once I am fully sure that what I am seeing is longleaf. When I am, then I will know. First, I have to positively identify one or two in my area. I know where two are that I suspect are LL. I need to stop and make a positive ID.
No matter how conventional wisdom may fly in the face of radical thought, it's still the most popular type.

Turbosawmill 8" cut GX390 Warrior Sawmill, 13hp Honda
MS290 Stihl

Genesis Hardwood Lumber

Offline Okrafarmer

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 6417
  • Age: 40
  • Location: upcountry SC-- Sweetgum capital of the world!
  • Gender: Male
  • Avast! Here appeareth some sweetgummery about....
    • Share Post
Re: virginia pine
« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2012, 07:58:58 AM »
SD, 4 inches on the top? You sure are spoiled. Our pine mills don't want anything less than 8" on the top.
No matter how conventional wisdom may fly in the face of radical thought, it's still the most popular type.

Turbosawmill 8" cut GX390 Warrior Sawmill, 13hp Honda
MS290 Stihl

Genesis Hardwood Lumber

Offline SwampDonkey

  • Forester
  • *
  • Posts: 35776
  • Age: 51
  • Location: Centreville, NB
  • Gender: Male
  • Large Tooth
    • Share Post
Re: virginia pine
« Reply #44 on: November 18, 2012, 10:40:02 AM »
I've seen them take a 2-1/2" top in fir and spruce during second thinnings.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

'If she wants to play lumberjack, she's going to have to learn to handle her end of the log.'
Dirty Harry

Offline Road Runner

  • Full Member
  • **
  • Posts: 53
  • Location: Upstate SC
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
Re: virginia pine
« Reply #45 on: November 18, 2012, 11:39:28 AM »
Okra,  If you have any longleaf in your area my guess is it was planted as you are a good bit north of it's natural range which as a general rule runs on the north edge of the sandhills in SC.  We have some longleaf in Abbeville Co. but it was all planted, mostly on USFS land in the 50s with very slow growth in the red clay.  Longleaf likes sandy soil. 
Oconee, Pickens, and Greenville Counties have both shortleaf and virginia pine, but my guess is that most sawlogs are shortleaf due to the size. limbs, and knots associated with virginia pine.  Virginia pine is used for interior paneling (knotty pine), but not so much for framing.     
WM LT40G25, Kubota MX5100, Husqvarna 365 & R460

Offline Okrafarmer

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 6417
  • Age: 40
  • Location: upcountry SC-- Sweetgum capital of the world!
  • Gender: Male
  • Avast! Here appeareth some sweetgummery about....
    • Share Post
Re: virginia pine
« Reply #46 on: November 18, 2012, 02:33:38 PM »
The two longleafs I suspect, are in someone's yard, so probably planted.

The Virginia pine obtain some decent size here, up to at least 16 inches dbh or more. We have tons of them around, it is one of the default trees for the whole area. Along with Sweetgum, Tulip Poplar, Water, Southern Red, and White Oak, Loblolly pine, and ERC.
No matter how conventional wisdom may fly in the face of radical thought, it's still the most popular type.

Turbosawmill 8" cut GX390 Warrior Sawmill, 13hp Honda
MS290 Stihl

Genesis Hardwood Lumber


Share via delicious Share via digg Share via facebook Share via linkedin Share via pinterest Share via reddit Share via stumble Share via tumblr Share via twitter

xx
Virginia Pine

Started by Osagedon on Sawmills and Milling

1 Replies
969 Views
Last post March 14, 2008, 10:48:11 PM
by DR_Buck
xx
Virginia Pine?

Started by JimVA on Timber Framing/Log construction

15 Replies
4834 Views
Last post April 18, 2004, 10:58:28 AM
by SwampDonkey
xx
What to do with Virginia Pine ?

Started by Markus on Forestry and Logging

2 Replies
1315 Views
Last post February 27, 2006, 05:51:42 AM
by BBK
xx
Virginia Pine....Any Good?

Started by DR_Buck on Sawmills and Milling

1 Replies
1162 Views
Last post May 07, 2004, 08:53:15 PM
by dail_h
 


Powered by EzPortal