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Offline graves logging

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353 won't start
« on: March 17, 2012, 03:00:10 PM »
I just droped in a new engine today in my skidder. I can get it to start. It kicks and kicks black smoke out of the muffler like its getting its fuel. Not sure what I did wrong. 

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Re: 353 won't start
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2012, 03:27:26 PM »
When i Rebuild my 4045T Deere Motor I had the same problem.. And if i gave it enough Ether I could get it to stay running, but smoked like a freight train.. I had to pull my Injectors and Have them Reset by an injector shop.. Reinstalled and it fired right up and ran smooth

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Re: 353 won't start
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2012, 03:33:50 PM »
I just droped in a new engine today in my skidder. I can get it to start. It kicks and kicks black smoke out of the muffler like its getting its fuel. Not sure what I did wrong.

I assume that you meant "can't" get it to start. ??

Or does it start and run while pouring out black smoke?
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Re: 353 won't start
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2012, 04:30:02 PM »
Sorry I mean can't get it started when u turn the key it kicks like it wants to go. And puffs black smoke

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Re: 353 won't start
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2012, 04:48:19 PM »
Are you sure the kill switch on the air intake side is not engaged , just a thought.
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Re: 353 won't start
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2012, 05:21:19 PM »
Sounds like the emergency kill switch is shut, re-set it.
Third generation logger, owner operator, 30 yrs felling experience with pole skidder. I got my neck broke back in 89, left me a quad. The wife kept the job going up to 96.

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Re: 353 won't start
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2012, 06:06:32 PM »
I think I have a injector problem.

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Re: 353 won't start
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2012, 06:58:30 PM »
Check blower intake, make sure its clear, just checking gl
Third generation logger, owner operator, 30 yrs felling experience with pole skidder. I got my neck broke back in 89, left me a quad. The wife kept the job going up to 96.

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Re: 353 won't start
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2012, 08:21:07 PM »
+1 for Lumberjack48
There is a spring loaded flap that shuts off the air to the blower if it was accidently tripped the engine will not start and will blow black smoke (its getting fuel but no air).
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Re: 353 won't start
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2012, 08:22:56 PM »
if it ran ok before you put it in. you must have asked. didnt have the valve cover off did you? do anything to the gov? check all fuel lines blow back into the tank to make sure. fill the fuel filters with the filters on take the plug put on the filter base fill it till it runs over bolth of them. you still may have to blow air into the tank. they use a gear pump it has to have fuel in it to pump. also make sure the restriction fitting is in the head. its the return line back to tank. without that fitting it return most of the fuel back to tank.

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Re: 353 won't start
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2012, 08:29:25 PM »
I'm no expert but I had the same problem as Bobus with brand new injectors...had to have them reset at the shop then it fired right up...BOB

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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 09:18:10 PM »
one other thing is cranking speed. the starter needs to turn the motor fast enought to start

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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2012, 11:50:15 AM »
All fixed up. 2 injectors sezied. Works good now. Thanks for rhe input

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Re: 353 won't start
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2012, 01:12:40 PM »
I presumed everything was new in engine. Glad you got'er running,  8)  off to the races now.
Third generation logger, owner operator, 30 yrs felling experience with pole skidder. I got my neck broke back in 89, left me a quad. The wife kept the job going up to 96.

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Re: 353 won't start
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2012, 03:20:49 PM »
It was a rebuilt.  but sat for 3 years. And never started

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Re: 353 won't start
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2012, 10:54:28 PM »
Your lucky,if those injectors were frozen in the full fuel position,you would have had a run away,the rack and governor couldn't over power the frozen injectors and would run wide open till it blew or floated the valves. It is always wise to periodicaly check your emergency shut off cable and flap to make sure its not frozen.

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Re: 353 won't start
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2012, 06:25:23 PM »
Ya I had a 305cr cat run away on me it blew up. Then cought fire

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Re: 353 won't start
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2012, 06:28:13 PM »
By the way I did not know how wore out my 353 was. I thought it worked good til it blew up. The power this rebuild has is unreal


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