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Re: glue
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2012, 09:17:19 AM »
i used a bottle of the gorrilla wood glue and now i have bought a bigger bottle of the elmers yellow carpenters glue... i have not had good luck at all with the shelf life of the gorrilla glue that is a brown liquid that seems to foam out of the seams if you dampen the surfaces before glueing.
the actual glue joint is great and strong but the cleanup is terrible and the next time i go for that bottle it is hardened... and that is with me squeezing all the air out before storing it.

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Re: glue
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2012, 08:33:07 PM »
Fine Woodworking did a test on glues a while back, and I recall that the worst performer in terms of strength was the Polyurethane glue. 
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Re: glue
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2012, 08:53:48 PM »
Fine Woodworking did a test on glues a while back, and I recall that the worst performer in terms of strength was the Polyurethane glue.

I don't know about all poly glues but Gorilla Glue is inconsistent. Sometimes it bonds stronger than a gorilla and other times the glue bond fails at the slightest stress. Then there's the issue with the foaming and worst of all, it turns black on one's hands and doesn't wash off. It has to wear off.

Like Ely wrote, the shelf life is pretty short, too, once you open the bottle. I buy it in very small bottles so that I don't have as much to toss when it hardens.
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Re: glue
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2012, 11:54:40 PM »
I have never had a glue joint fail with tb. When I started woodworking. One of my first projects was a hallway table. I took two 8' walnut boards and stood them on end for the frame about 18" apart. I then cut a bunch of walnut and cherry boards 18" long and glued them together and to the top of the table. (with the grain of the wood running perpendicular to the frame). This was before I had a jointer and the boards were only close to straight edged. The glue joints all stayed intact but I ended up with over 1/2" gaps where the wood busted apart.
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« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2012, 11:56:44 PM »
First lesson learned: dry wood before using. Second lesson learned: make sure hard glue joints have the grain runnin in the same direction.
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Re: glue
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2012, 12:07:18 AM »
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Re: glue
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2012, 01:28:13 AM »
I actually like Lepages the best, but Titebond is cheaper and I can get it by the gallon at Lowes for the same price as an 800 ml Lepage bottle. Lepage says a bond strength of 2 tonnes (metric). I have had Titebond separate in ash at the board ends, and the ash was air dried for years. Lepages has never done that. It's made in Ohio, but have not recalled seeing it on store shelves in Maine.
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Re: glue
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2012, 01:55:50 AM »
Generally use titebondII most of the time
don't like gorilla glue but bil had me make a project with a foreign imported wood dont remember the name wooded seemed greasy and he
and was told to use gorilla and I didnt know what else to use
   Used hide glue years ago as a teenager helped a fella restore antiques that's all he used
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Re: glue
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2012, 09:20:36 AM »
i used the regular glue to make my door panels for the exterior door on my house, made of oak 1 1/4 inch thick. i used a bisquit joiner to put em together, while i was trimming the panels to fit my buddy says that would never hold. i hand ed him a strip off the side where it ran across the joints, told him to break this and see.
he hurt his knee trying to break the strip, fianally stomp it all to pieces and not one break in the glue joints.

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Re: glue
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2012, 09:41:13 AM »
I use Titebond II and Titebond III pretty much exclusively. I've always wanted to try liquid hide glue, but I can't get it at the hardware store, and I don't feel like ordering it online, so I never have. I really don't have much interest in trying hot hide glue. I will say that after repairing quite a bit of furniture over the years, I much prefer dealing with the hide glue! I have no doubt that if my furniture is still around in 100 years, my ancestors will be cussing me if they ever have to repair a joint :D
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