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Author Topic: 8tooth VS 7tooth rim  (Read 2783 times)

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Offline oldsaw-addict

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8tooth VS 7tooth rim
« on: March 16, 2004, 08:37:44 PM »
I am thinking about upgrading the rim size on my jonsered from a 7 tooth to an 8 tooth rim sprocket. Would a 670 with a 66.8cc engine and some engine modifications have the power to run an 8 tooth sprocket on it? Or am I missing something or other here about such configurations?
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Re: 8tooth VS 7tooth rim
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2004, 12:20:08 AM »
Technically speaking, you'll gain 14% in chain-speed and thus loose this in power as well...

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Re: 8tooth VS 7tooth rim
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2004, 03:53:45 AM »
For $3 (assuming you use a rim sprocket), just try it. To rephrase what Q said, you will be using the same amount of power to spin the chain 14% faster.

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Re: 8tooth VS 7tooth rim
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2004, 04:20:11 AM »
You also increase the chance to throw a chain because there's less contact on the bar near the mount.
I wouldn't say it's a huge problem but it happens.

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Re: 8tooth VS 7tooth rim
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2004, 04:20:38 AM »
Yes I am using a rim and drum setup on my saw, Thanks for helping me out.
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Re: 8tooth VS 7tooth rim
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2004, 05:33:34 AM »
I run a 8 tooth on my Jred 801 and it works great. The top end is something like 8k RPM's, so the extra 14% really helps and the saw has plenty of torque to run the 8.

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This was my first saw and for the years before this and other forums, i didn't know much about chains or saws, i would take it in and have the shop put a chain on it. Well they would take a look at the chain which was already there and replace it with the same type. It was a semi-chisel, with full safety links...

I recently bought a full chisel, Stihl RS chain. WOW, what a difference!
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Re: 8tooth VS 7tooth rim
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2004, 06:43:09 AM »
Rob, there's a bit of difference in cutting speed with that Stihl RS as compared to a safety chain, eh?  I was blown away too. :)
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Re: 8tooth VS 7tooth rim
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2004, 08:31:53 AM »
Yep, it must be like having your saw power ported, only quieter, oh and a whole lot less expensive!
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Re: 8tooth VS 7tooth rim
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2004, 10:53:26 AM »
...and then try square filing it...and the revelation is complete...

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Re: 8tooth VS 7tooth rim
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2004, 02:51:29 PM »
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...and then try square filing it...and the revelation is complete...

Q

Yeah, I just dont have the time to square file my chains, I prefer the round filing method, they still cut MUCH faster than semi chisel chain but tend to get dull faster in sandy conditions. I used to use only semi chisel chains on my saws, then I stepped up to the big leagues and I'll NEVER go back to those semi chisels in clean wood again.Theres a purpose for every type of chain, but I prefer the full chisel over the rest. Its been decided now I'm going with the 8 tooth rim for my 670, Thanks for your advice guys I appreciate it a lot.
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Re: 8tooth VS 7tooth rim
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2004, 05:01:58 AM »
  id have to agree,although i do like my square filed chain [done br eric  ecopsey and one by john lambert.
 art matin had a post on another forum about how the best modification on a saw,, is to get the cuttin end o the saw rite.

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Re: 8tooth VS 7tooth rim
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2004, 07:11:39 AM »
I replaced the bar and chain on my Jonesred 630 not long ago and they recommended an 8 tooth sprocket. I had a heck or a hard time getting the chain on and once I did I've thrown it 2 or 3 times. As soon as I get the chance I'm going to get a 7 tooth to replace it. I never thrown a chain on that saw and I've over 100 cords of firewood with it.

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PS - it did cut nice though

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Re: 8tooth VS 7tooth rim
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2004, 02:32:57 PM »
Mark;
You might be able to get another bar of a different manufacture that is a little larger at the mount end of the bar.

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Re: 8tooth VS 7tooth rim
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2004, 02:37:38 PM »
I should look into that bar issue to PREVENT the saw from throwing my chains first. I dont want to throw any of my chains with a larger sprocket so I will look into some different brands of bar for my saw. Funny I never really thought about it until someone else mentioned it.
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