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Re: Woods protection for JD 990
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2012, 08:16:36 PM »
Need to weld something around the valve stem. I just used a piece of " flat stock a little higher than the stem. Leave room to work on the stem too.On one I used a piece of 3 or 4 inch pipe with threads on it and put a cap on it too. My NH came with the protectors on the front tires but none on the rear,which I feel was kinda odd. Need them on back more,those are the expensive tubes. I suppose you have tubes in your tires?Seem like if you weld with air in the tire it will explode?? Seem like I heard about that on here?
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Re: Woods protection for JD 990
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2012, 08:36:18 PM »
Need to weld something around the valve stem. I just used a piece of " flat stock a little higher than the stem. Leave room to work on the stem too.On one I used a piece of 3 or 4 inch pipe with threads on it and put a cap on it too. My NH came with the protectors on the front tires but none on the rear,which I feel was kinda odd. Need them on back more,those are the expensive tubes. I suppose you have tubes in your tires?Seem like if you weld with air in the tire it will explode?? Seem like I heard about that on here?

All the tires are tubeless right now, but I actually need to have the rears broken down to remove the calcium since it is weeping through the bead and rusting the rim. I'll probably have tubes put back in at that time. I don't think I want to weld to the rim so I may pass on the guards for now. I'll just have to be careful where I'm going
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Re: Woods protection for JD 990
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2012, 08:45:31 PM »
You are going to want tubes in those tires for the woods. I have tubes in all my tires. Front and back and my rear are loaded with calium. I even loaded the ones on the 30hp and we only use that to mow with and to blow snow.When the tires are off I would weld something around the stems. It does not do anything bad to the rims. just re paint that area. I also hope you have 2 brake pedals and know how to use them.
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Re: Woods protection for JD 990
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2012, 09:05:54 PM »
You are going to want tubes in those tires for the woods. I have tubes in all my tires. Front and back and my rear are loaded with calium. I even loaded the ones on the 30hp and we only use that to mow with and to blow snow.When the tires are off I would weld something around the stems. It does not do anything bad to the rims. just re paint that area. I also hope you have 2 brake pedals and know how to use them.

I do have 2 pedals, and definitely know how to use them. Very handy feature. I do plan on putting tubes in, but what makes you so strongly recommend them. I guess I could weld to the rim, but I spent so long looking for a good tractor (cosmetic and functional) that I hate to mess up anything right away. I don't think I'll end up breaking them down myself, I dont think I have a good way to handle the calcium. So to weld on the rim, I'd have to make a trip to the shop to clean them out and break them down, then another one to have them remounted once I get the protection on. Something to consider at least.
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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2012, 09:24:06 PM »
My rims are kinda banged up from rocks and I even had a small thin piece of wood sticking out between by rim and tire. If there was not a tube in it.I probably would of had a flat. You will be squatting the tires down with a load and running over a rock or a stump makes it that must worse.I have a local tire place,New Sharon,about hour away that comes right to my house. Last one I had done was about $180. Two guys was here about an hour. That was new tube,pump the calium out,clean everything,put calcium back in and bending back some bad places on the rim and grinding it down too. I don't work on the rear ones. the front ones I take to the guy that does my car tires.I feel if you are really going to work your tractor in the woods,tubes all the way around. Also how many plys are your tires? Also forget the nice looking tractor part too.  ;D  I brought a real nice looking tractor. I did more damage to that poor thing in one year,than the other guy did in 8,by digging rocks and working it in the woods. But I use mine ALOT. I put about 600 hours on it in one year.I've been around loaded tires on 3 tractors and have never heard of not running a tube with calium.
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Re: Woods protection for JD 990
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2012, 09:55:36 PM »
My rims are kinda banged up from rocks and I even had a small thin piece of wood sticking out between by rim and tire. If there was not a tube in it.I probably would of had a flat. You will be squatting the tires down with a load and running over a rock or a stump makes it that must worse.I have a local tire place,New Sharon,about hour away that comes right to my house. Last one I had done was about $180. Two guys was here about an hour. That was new tube,pump the calium out,clean everything,put calcium back in and bending back some bad places on the rim and grinding it down too. I don't work on the rear ones. the front ones I take to the guy that does my car tires.I feel if you are really going to work your tractor in the woods,tubes all the way around. Also how many plys are your tires? Also forget the nice looking tractor part too.  ;D  I brought a real nice looking tractor. I did more damage to that poor thing in one year,than the other guy did in 8,by digging rocks and working it in the woods. But I use mine ALOT. I put about 600 hours on it in one year.I've been around loaded tires on 3 tractors and have never heard of not running a tube with calium.

Tires are 8 ply 17.5 - 24 R4 tires. Pretty heavy when loaded. Tractor only has 480 hours on it and is in really good shape right now. Tires are loaded with calcium now, but due to the fact that there are no tubes, the calcium is starting to eat the rim. That's why I want to get tubes. That price isnt too bad for all the work involved, I may have to check into that. I'm in Canton so New Sharon isnt too far away. What was the name of the place you used?

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Re: Woods protection for JD 990
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2012, 09:56:22 PM »
I do not recommend using tube tires. If you puncture them, you have to dismount them to fix the tube. Use radials without tubes. If you have a puncture, just plug it with a tire plug. If you tear your tire open, you can then use tube as a last resort.

Use antifreeze in your tires, not calcium. Calcium is highly corrosive. Better yet, don't use water at all.
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« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2012, 10:06:40 PM »
Pitcher Perfect Tire,  Does not look like much of a place,but had them here twice so far and happy each time. No fancy trucks from these guys,but they do good work.I only had to wait one day.They leave the tire right on the tractor.The rim is not removed either.Can come over to see what I do,if you want.Nice looking tractor,so was mine.  :(
I have never punctured a tire,had a few tubes rot out yes. Calcium weighs more than anti freeze,that's why it is used and cheaper. Calcium is non toxic too. Would have to use the RV stuff.
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« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2012, 10:26:26 PM »
Calcium may be cheaper, but calcium + rusted rims is not cheaper.
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« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2012, 10:39:16 PM »
Starting to sound like someone else on the forum.  ::) I have a 1954 ford that has calcium in the rims since the day my Father brought it new and has never had a rim rusted out or trouble with area around the valve stem. The trouble you have seen is people will have tire trouble and won't get it fixed. If it not leaking and has tube,no contact with calium on metal,no rust. Maybe Fords rims are better.  :D
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« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2012, 10:43:24 PM »
I use windshield washer fluid. Cheap and weighs almost as much as water per gallon. Slightly less than calcium and a lot easier to remove and add back without hiring a truck to stop by for a job.

The same FEL #430 that I have on my Deere 4300.
Do you have the ROPS folded? Mine is fixed and I've thought about some headache bars (think there is a better name for them) to protect the hood and over my head while in the woods. Don't like catching limbs/branches on the ROPS that then whap the back of my head. Like to have them slide up and over the ROPS.
 
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« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2012, 10:47:51 PM »
I've heard them called "limb raisers" or "limb risers" but I'm not sure if that is the official term.  :)


I'll have to remember the windshield washer fluid idea. But how do you put it in by yourself?
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« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2012, 10:51:16 PM »
I don't even know where all the tires irons are now. I don't have the stuff to work on a tire of a 40 hp tractor. Meaning I'm not 20 anymore.  ;D  My days of pounding on a tire is long gone. Much easier to watch them guys do it. Than pay the bill.
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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2012, 10:52:22 PM »
Myself?
I laid the tire down and broke the topside bead, then poured in the fluid. Raised the tire with some blocking while still flat on the ground and added air.
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« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2012, 05:55:29 AM »
Need to weld something around the valve stem. I just used a piece of " flat stock a little higher than the stem. Leave room to work on the stem too.On one I used a piece of 3 or 4 inch pipe with threads on it and put a cap on it too. My NH came with the protectors on the front tires but none on the rear,which I feel was kinda odd. Need them on back more,those are the expensive tubes. I suppose you have tubes in your tires?Seem like if you weld with air in the tire it will explode?? Seem like I heard about that on here?
  be very careful when it comes to welding on a wheel with the tire on. watched a vid from bridgestone on welding wheels. they had a temp and air press guadge setup they welded on the wheel . the temp and press went up a lot then it exploded.

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« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2012, 07:35:34 AM »
delektos (before they were hammond) did the valve stem protectors on the 990 i ran before they delivered it. they just used threaded pipe and pipe caps. they are very rugged and it just takes a pipe wrench to break them loose when needed.

those r4s are nice for the extra plys but the lugs arent as deep as an r1. i would highly recommend some agressive tire chains. if you set the rear tires as wide as they go there is just enough room for the chains to clear the fenders.

where did you find an 02 with so few hours? the 04 i ran is pushing 1000 now.

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« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2012, 07:51:10 AM »
Maine372 is right,I had a tractor with the r1s and have one now with those r4s. A BIG difference. I don't like the r4s at all.But to change them to the good ones with some traction,when they do wear out,I might have to buy new rims??? But like mjeselskis,buy used that's what it came with. About the only thing that I like about those r4s,is for packing the soil. I have a place that I am bringing some dirt into. Those tires will pack it down good. Look at billm tires. If those r4s were good tires he would be running them.
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« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2012, 07:57:47 AM »
I use windshield washer fluid. Cheap and weighs almost as much as water per gallon. Slightly less than calcium and a lot easier to remove and add back without hiring a truck to stop by for a job.

The same FEL #430 that I have on my Deere 4300.
Do you have the ROPS folded? Mine is fixed and I've thought about some headache bars (think there is a better name for them) to protect the hood and over my head while in the woods. Don't like catching limbs/branches on the ROPS that then whap the back of my head. Like to have them slide up and over the ROPS.

ROPS is permanently "folded"... The previous owner was an older gentleman that didnt like the way the ROPS looked so he cut it off level with the sheetmetal behind the seat. One of my first projects is to correct that.

As you mentioned some limb risers or headache bars would be nice to make the limbs sweep up over the hood and ROPS to keep them out of my face.
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Re: Woods protection for JD 990
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2012, 08:00:31 AM »
delektos (before they were hammond) did the valve stem protectors on the 990 i ran before they delivered it. they just used threaded pipe and pipe caps. they are very rugged and it just takes a pipe wrench to break them loose when needed.

those r4s are nice for the extra plys but the lugs arent as deep as an r1. i would highly recommend some agressive tire chains. if you set the rear tires as wide as they go there is just enough room for the chains to clear the fenders.

where did you find an 02 with so few hours? the 04 i ran is pushing 1000 now.

The tractor came from Indiana. It was from a homeowner that lived in a development that used it to till his garden and play around the yard. I searched near and far for quite  a while before I found one I liked. Now that I have it, I dont think I could ever go without a tractor again.

I don't have alot of mud so I think the R4's will do what I need in the summer, and I will probably pick up a set of chains for the winter. I do like the R4's for working in the field, they don't tear it up like the R4's I have used in the past.
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« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2012, 08:05:49 AM »
Looks like a new building you have your tractor in? I like to see a tractor under cover.
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