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« on: December 23, 2012, 04:05:32 PM »
 
 For those of you that won't or don't try 4* blades in tough to saw wood you should. Today again I put on a brand new 7* blade that I could watch cut up and down on the first and 2nd cut, took it off and put on a old Simonds sharpened down to less than 1-1/8 inch wide (10 plus sharpenings) that cut way better but was just a bit wavy on a big knot  in wide frozen white oak.  Took that same 7* blade, gave it a little more set and sharpened at 4* then it cut real straight untill it got dull. This is about the 5th time sharpening at less hook resulted in same although the other blades started a 10 *   Steve
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Re: 4* blades
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2012, 04:10:46 PM »
How about 4 blades?  In Windows, do "Alt 0176" on your numbers keypad to get the .


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Re: 4* blades
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2012, 04:20:29 PM »

 Shotgun, your going to have to live with * here, alt0176 seems to do nothing here and it would be to much bother.   Steve
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Re: 4* blades
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2012, 04:55:06 PM »
DanG, I just do it the simple way and click on the button just below the "C" on "Change Color" above.   ;D
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Re: 4* blades
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2012, 05:07:44 PM »
 I don't see that button either, I think we all know what* mean on here.  Steve
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Re: 4* blades
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2012, 05:08:39 PM »

 I don't see that button either, I think we all know what* mean on here and 4* works better in tough wood.  Steve
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Re: 4* blades
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2012, 05:09:19 PM »
DanG I just bought some 7* blades to cut some old oak for a fella. Maybe I should have gone with 4s. We shall see next week. Always a day late and a dolla short, Oh well! Merry Christmas to all, Brian
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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2012, 05:17:32 PM »
 Taylor,  your 38 years old try some 4* before you get much older.  I'd have thought a  7* would have cut better but they didn't.  These 7* blades have a real deep gullet, I've alway said gullet dept doen't mean anything.  Steve
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Re: 4* blades
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2012, 05:24:52 PM »
4 is my go to for tough sawing. Tried to cut an old, clear maple last month, the 10 left a cut that looked like a roller coaster, the ReSharp 4 cut it perfectly.
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Re: 4* blades
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2012, 07:20:01 PM »
Steve;  Sometime you'll have to explain how you make adjustments on the Cats Claw to sharpen at different hook angles.
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2012, 08:15:45 PM »
Chuck,I'am not steve or as smart as he, but my cats claw has a clamp behind the motor and socket head setscrew that fits in different tapped holes for different hook angles.Always good form to have a machinests protractor head and check the teeth.As the leading edge of the grinding wheel wears you will tend to get less hook. Frank C.
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Re: 4* blades
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2012, 11:27:02 PM »
Steve, I agree with you on 4s.  Whenever I have a log that gives me trouble seems like the 4s work.  I just bought a box of 7s and have not tried them yet. I saw a lot of over ripe oak and hickory.
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Re: 4* blades
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2012, 11:37:43 PM »
Cut my first bur oak with a new ultra 10*. It didn't make it through a 9'x 20" log! Need to get some 4* before I try another.Any suggestions? Keith
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Re: 4* blades
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2012, 01:45:14 AM »
ND...Bur Oak bark is very deep furrowed and holds dirt and grit like you wouldn't believe. that might have been more of a problem than the hook angle of your blade. Steve's right about less hook angle running better in frozen hardwood, but dirt will chew up teeth fairly quick regardless of of the degree of hook.
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Re: 4* blades
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2012, 02:01:53 AM »
Dirt is bad. Frozen dirt is much worse. It doesn't take much to dull a blade.
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« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2012, 05:05:52 AM »
Cut my first bur oak with a new ultra 10*. It didn't make it through a 9'x 20" log! Need to get some 4* before I try another.Any suggestions? Keith

 For sure get some 4* , also check the downpressure the guide wheels are putting on the blade which is real important to cut straight. It should be 1/4", have the blade tensioned ,loosen the guide wheels so they're above the blade then measure from the blade to the bunk and lower the wheels untill they push it down 1/4". Make sure both sides are even to the bunk.  Also run the movable guide wheel in and out and make sure it stays even with the bunk, there are adjusters on the top of it .    Steve
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« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2012, 05:11:01 AM »

 The log I was cutting was clean but did have a lot of blown in dust but that 7* blade was up and down if the first 3 feet of the first cut.  When I cut those trees down my saws dulled up fast.   Steve
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« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2012, 07:39:09 AM »
Anyone here tried less than 4 degree hook.[notice how I got around that degree symbol thing] I must try less than four myself, if you sharpen you own no big deal a simple adjustment.Only real downside is will probibly require more power and a little harder to feed. Frank C.
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« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2012, 07:49:11 AM »
Thanks for the info Frank!

Don't know why, but that info is not in my manual.
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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2012, 07:52:12 AM »
Your right Steve, I'll give em a try on my next blade order. You sound pretty happy with them. Brian
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