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Belsaw m-14
« on: January 02, 2013, 06:21:09 PM »
Well my wife finally put a few pictures of my little Belsaw in my photo gallery , i got it set up last year and was powering it with a 1948 Case SC tractor. It is not overburdened with power so this fall i picked up a 60 H.P. massey ferguson. If anyone is interested heres the link,i don't know how to actually post pictures here. Since then i have made the shed bigger putting my Chase shingle mill under part  of it. Don

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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2013, 07:00:10 PM »
upgrading from that 25-28 hp  to 60 would be nice.
I thought bout running my case dc (35-38 hp) on my bellsaw.. gave up on that idea before i even started. .
lookin at a 60 hp case combine engine, waitin on a price.

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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2013, 07:06:53 PM »
This one works all right in Pine with the Case, but it only has a 40" saw on it also. As soon as i hook up the Massey to it i have a 46" saw to put on it. With the 40" saw you use the Johnsered top saw pretty often on anything over 20" diameter.  :laugh:I have just seen that outside links are not allowed so i suspect my photos will get pulled since my wife is the only one that knows how to post pictures here ,when i can get her to do it. i probably wont be posting many  pictures. Don
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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2013, 07:23:17 PM »
loggah,

That is one fine looking set-up.  Looks like you have the support equipment to go along with it!   smiley_thumbsup
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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2013, 07:28:24 PM »
I do have an assortment of junk hanging around!! Don
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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2013, 07:32:09 PM »
Took a quick measurement in the snowbank. My m14 has 10 foot carrage,  68 in between the headblocks.   Now looking at your phots, you have a center support sprocket inbetween on the 1 inch tie rod,  mine dose not.  .   Also the uprights are really short on your mill. Mine are 4 foot.  Maybe mine was upgraded for a bigger wheel? they are excessive and going to get cut down.  . The farmer said very little and that it was only used one time. Mine came with a 42 inch insert tooth blade, and never had a board splitter.  So with a 42 in blade, reading it can only do an 18 in dia log basically.   Other than that, was told mine is a 1978.      still trying to decypher the tag what the last numbers mean,  m14/04 0

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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2013, 07:40:19 PM »
Mine had 3 headblocks,i took the middle one out because it was a real pain with crooked wood ,if i was sawing real short wood i would take the end dog off and put it on the middle one. i think my uprights are around 3' high. The belsaw book says a 21" dia. log with a 40" blade,and a 24" dia.log with a 46" saw. A24" log is plenty big when your rolling them with a cantdog. Don
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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2013, 08:11:41 PM »
I have never seen one with a triple setup.   I was thinking about making mine into a triple due to all the really short logs I get,  I had my slabber almost finished when I found mine.  Clamping them in my slabber isnt too bad as I took that into play, But I have several truckloads of them from a logging job I did.   Is yours a 10 foot carrage or 14 foot ?

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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2013, 08:23:00 PM »
Mine is only a 10 Ft carriage,
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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2013, 08:57:03 PM »
Nice setup Don,it will be a real treat to have more power.Do you have anyone local that tensions mill saws.?? Frank C.
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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2013, 09:11:51 PM »
There is a guy in Ashland about 14 miles from me that does it,and Fitz saw in rumney ,but i haven't had to have mine done yet,it runs pretty well at around 550 -560 rpm. There was a guy in Lyndonville Vt, Bruce Dexter that used to do it but he sold out to someone in Orange Mass, at least thats what i was told. Don
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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2013, 09:30:45 PM »
Neat set-up!  When they were still in business, F-B usta publish a quarterly trade magazine and would sometimes having pictures of folks pulling a mill with a Super C Farmall or something similar;  don't think one could saw much of a log with that kind of power.  The operator's manual says a M-14 w/10 ft carriage and 46 inch blade will handle a 24 inch by 14 ft log;  I've sawed larger and longer logs, but that's really overloading the mill.

 

 

 
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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2013, 09:47:03 PM »
Nice looking Red Oak !! I am going to lengthen mine out so i have 50' of track,i got some 10" channel iron i will be using .i am going to make the end where i roll the logs on,where it takes the most strain out of it,and move 1 section of the regular belsaw frame to the other end, and i probably will lengthen the carriage to 16 or 18 feet, to keep the chatter down on long logs. I intend to be able to saw 24 feet long timbers "OCCASIONALLY" !! ;D ;D Don
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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2013, 09:56:49 PM »
loggah,

Dandy mill and sawshed,  great photos also,

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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2013, 10:13:09 PM »
nice setup loggah!!  i dig your old machines man, especially the lombard.  this pic is my fav...i can just imagine you saying:  "hey you kids stay away from my sawmill!"   :D :D

 

btw you're so close to posting pics.  what i do is just take those jpeg images and get em on your computer.  then you can upload them into your ff gallery.  then i just copy and paste into my post. 
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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2013, 11:55:29 PM »
here is a look at mine
 
 
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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2013, 07:29:04 AM »
Capt. I have 2 sets of rollers that i am going to put up this spring after i modify the mill. i see that you lengthened either end of your carriage. I have some pictures of my portable Belsaw unit i have i lengthened the carriage to 14' on that one,maybe my wife will get them into the gallary and i can get them in here. nice looking unit !I really like that log turner ,but i dont have room for one like it at the moment.   Don
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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2013, 07:38:44 AM »
Well ,my link has probably been deleted,my computer is to old to post the gallery pictures here its an old mac powerbook,my wife  can do it with her newer computer ,but since this is my hobby and not hers i doubt you guys will see many more pictures :( :( Don
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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2013, 07:46:20 AM »
Don,your wise to beef up the loading turning area,Belsaws are a marvel of simplicity but won't take abuse.I really like Cappy Crunchs turners I use the same principal where you pull the log/cant twords you and it slides back on the carriage with minimal shock.Its nice to be able to handle the long ones I can do 18' with a tailwind. Frank C.
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Re: Belsaw m-14
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2013, 08:14:23 AM »
On my log brow i have 2 heavy grader cutting edges that have bolt holes about 6" apart, when i turn the cant i roll it onto the edges and then can slide it back by putting my peavey pike in the holes and sliding the cant back onto the carriage. Don
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