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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2013, 09:46:09 PM »
Well, I was going to congratulate everyone on thier stash-o-logs 8) 8).  Then along comes Corley5 :(

We could also start another thread about people who are calling for slab firewood because they are out.  It is January.  Hello :new_year: it is winter!  Unless you live near Ian or Chris :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  Ya oughta have some wood in the shed.  I chained up the forklift because I have been getting daily calls from locals saying "How is my credit because momma's out of firewood."  I hope spring is coming, ;D  for their sake.

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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2013, 10:40:11 PM »
We've got around 30 cords, plus or minus one or two. About half is split. I'd split it all, but my gasser doesn't like it if it gets too dry(under 15% mc). We'll go through about 7 or 8 cords on in an average winter. A bit over 5 last heating season.
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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2013, 05:52:03 AM »
Christmas vacation just ended yesterday, so my help [kids]went back to school, college, work,military, etc, after three saws running, two skid steers, and 25 gallons of gas mix and too many chains to sharpen to even count, we now have at least two years cut and split and shoved into a pile, it was all dry wood anyhow, the logs were all from dead or down trees, stacked in neat piles two years before that, some were even not worth cutting but we did anyhow, dozy wood burns too. 

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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2013, 06:14:52 AM »
Randy88,dozy,my Father used to use that wood. I have not heard that word since 1997. Thank you
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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2013, 06:32:22 AM »
3 plus and 2 more waiting for me to get to i need to get some to the stove tho it has been cut split and stacked for 5 years locust and hedge (it will burn nice)

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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2013, 01:52:30 PM »
I have all of this years, and most of next, split and stacked in the shed. My sons where all up over the holidays and I intended to split the last cord or two that is in the pile. Rain and a general lack of interest prevented that from happening. I'll get around to it eventually.

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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2013, 10:41:03 AM »
 

                                                                                  About 3 yr's I believe. Don't really like to get much further ahead than that. Lets see if this pic shows.

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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2013, 11:29:36 AM »
Got it!!

Nice pic.
Is that a model 430 in the pic? or maybe a 420? 

Appears you keep a fire going while splitting. Is that to just clean up around, or to keep you warm?   ;D
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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2013, 11:33:43 AM »
430,Yes and Yes

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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2013, 12:32:02 PM »
I'm very weak on geography, does it get cold in Missouri?
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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2013, 12:59:08 PM »
 
 r.man, yes but probably not as cold as your area gets but a little more than my area. Clear as mud eh?

 I have about half of next years wood cut. Hope to make a little more of a dent in it tomorrow. Because why do today what you can put off till tomorrow...

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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2013, 01:06:56 PM »
I'm very weak on geography, does it get cold in Missouri?
Yes r.man it can get pretty cold the lowest temp I saw this week was 8 Degrees on my woy to work.This morn was 18 but is supposed to be in low 40 this afternoon.

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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2013, 03:05:06 PM »
We've got around 30 cords, plus or minus one or two. About half is split. I'd split it all, but my gasser doesn't like it if it gets too dry(under 15% mc).

Could you tell me what your gasser and dry (?really dry) wood don't like about each other?  Burns too fast?  Doesn't create lasting coal bed?
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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2013, 03:57:53 PM »
I'm interested too. Pretty unusual to get air dried firewood stored outside (and not in a heated place) to dry more than 12% mc, if that.
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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2013, 08:19:27 PM »
Marty is in St. Johns Mich. ,nothing is dry up there .Lawdy during summer they have mosquitoes the size of crows .

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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2013, 09:39:38 PM »
I can't speak for all gassers, so I won't. The two that I've owned-my Portage and Main 250 and the Empyre Pro Series 100 do not like wood that is too dry. I noticed 3 winters ago when I had the Empyre that it would "Huff" quite often when I had a load of really dry wood in it. This "Huffing" was actually the unburned gasses igniting in the primary burn chamber and exploding and forcing smoke clear back and out of the blower housing.
I called Pro Fab(the Canadian company who manufacturers the Empyre line) and was able to speak to one of their engineers about the situation. I won't go into a bunch of detail about our conversation, but in a nut shell, he explained that a gasser needs at least 15% mc to help control how fast the gasses are released from the wood. Not enough moisture and too many gasses are released too fast, thus the "Huffing". Too much moisture and gasification is harder to achieve. He said that mc's should ideally be between 15 and 25%.
My P&M behaves the same way as my Empyre did. I'm the type of person who doesn't waste wood. If it is as big as my wrist, I'm cutting it up and bringing it home. If I load my 250 with a bunch of small, too dry dead Ash, it will start huffing and blowing a lot of smoke through the blower and out the back of the stove.
If your blower,solenoids, or actuator flaps have a bunch of creosote on them, the same thing is happening to you. Mix in some wetter wood and problem solved.
Beenthere, you are very close about the ambient mc for this area. I have some Ash that I've had split(split very small for the little Empyre) for 5 years and off the ground, and if I cut a piece in half and check the mc, it reads as low as 11% on two different moisture meters. It averages in the 15% range. I mix it with fresh cut standing dead Ash(around20-25%) to get rid of it.

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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2013, 09:59:36 AM »
One year ahead (minimum).
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« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2013, 10:01:11 AM »
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that does not give the time to firewood.  :D
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« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2013, 08:26:27 PM »
I have between two and three years in split hardwood (26 cords) depending on the winter. I also have a pile of poplar that needs to be split.

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Re: How many years or heating seasons are you ahead on wood?
« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2013, 10:19:16 AM »
I'm usually at least a year ahead, and let any Oak dry through at least two summers.  When I first got into this, I borrowed a moisture meeting and tracked the MC with various stacking methods.  I found if I cut and split and put it right in my woodshed (open on 3 sides) in the Spring while still somewhat green, it was still wetter than ideal by the time the heating season rolled around.

If I cut (16"), split & stack in single rows out of my woodshed, exposed to the sun and wind, I can cut in the Spring (even late spring) and have most species well below 20% by the time the heating season starts that fall.  Generally had very little trouble getting it down to 15% MC average (I cut up some logs and tested MC ever 2" or so, out of curiosity, and to "calibrate" my eyeball/feel moisture estimates).  This does involve some extra handling, since I eventually move it into the woodshed, but I end up with dry wood hen I need it.

Usually, I'm cutting and stacking in the woods at least a year early, to get started on drying. Then I bring it out into better drying conditions as I have time.  I'm a bit behind that schedule now.
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