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Thickness for Table Top ??
« on: January 16, 2013, 09:27:57 PM »
I know that I have too many irons in my fire already, but I have a table to build.  I realize that it boils down to personal preference but I am looking for opinions on the table top thickness.

If I use 1", then I have plenty of dried Cherry.  If the top is 1" or thicker, then I will saw it from some 10' Cherry logs that have been down and bucked for two years.  Of course I would also have the option of doubling the already sawn 1" for a 2" thick table top.

 

 
This is the design that I am thinking about using, but I have no problem with running the boards to the end and leaving the end grain exposed.

 
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Re: Thickness for Table Top ??
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2013, 09:37:39 PM »
My personal preference for a kitchen table is about a 7/8"-1" thick top, but if you go with a thinner top, then the base needs to be lighter in appearance to match. If you are going with that design for the base, then I think a 1.5" - 2" top would look about right.

You wouldn't necessarily need to cut new lumber, though - you could use WDH's method for making a thick-looking top out of thin lumber where the end grain still matches:

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Re: Thickness for Table Top ??
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2013, 09:53:41 PM »
Personally, I prefer the thicker tops. In my experience I have found that the individual boards are also less likely to cup, or bow, when they are thicker. I always alternate the rings (up then down) when gluing together, with or without biscuits.
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Re: Thickness for Table Top ??
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2013, 09:57:09 PM »
I think that the table top above was about 1" and the legs were probably 3"-4".

I could glue up and make the legs or saw them out.  I could attach them any number of ways.  The only absolute right now is that I have to build it.   ;D
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Re: Thickness for Table Top ??
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2013, 10:01:57 PM »
I'm with Dodgy on this.  I used 1" for my kitchen table top and it's plenty strong, but I think it looks a bit thin compared to the base.  If I had to do it over again I'd go with at least 1 1/2" thick lumber to even out the aesthetics.   

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Re: Thickness for Table Top ??
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2013, 10:02:23 PM »
In my experience I have found that the individual boards are also less likely to cup, or bow, when they are thicker. I always alternate the rings (up then down) when gluing together, with or without biscuits.

I have never had trouble with cupping, so I always arrange my boards so they look best, without regard to ring orientation. Usually cupping is results from laying your boards on a flat surface where air can't circulate around both sides, or from leaving them lying where one side is exposed to the sun or another heat source. The board's surfaces end up with a moisture gradient and you get cupping. Taking care to ensure airflow and keeping them out of the sun and away from other heat sources should reduce their tendency to cup.
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Re: Thickness for Table Top ??
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2013, 12:59:54 AM »
I have never had trouble with cupping, so I always arrange my boards so they look best, without regard to ring orientation.

I do the same, Dodgy.

s for tabletop thickness, I think it depends on the style. I have a Mesquite dining table with a 7/8" thick top but the legs are slim, tapered affairs and the apron is narrow. In furniture building, proportion is everything.

MM, for a table like you displayed in the pic, I'd make the top a full 1 1/2" thick. Anything less robust wouldn't look right with those heavy, square legs and overall solid appearance.

You could use solid stock or do like Danny did and double up the edge to make it appear thicker.
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Re: Thickness for Table Top ??
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2013, 03:39:37 AM »
The table we are building right now is very similar to your picture.
My daughter showed me a picture of table legs she wants and it is exactly as you posted.  I started with 1 1/2 stock for the top before the planing. It is now just over 1 1/4.  I'm on the fence about how thick we'll go.  We are supposed to start on them tonight and she has done a good job of supervising so far.  If my legs are too big it'll be her fault. :D
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Re: Thickness for Table Top ??
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2013, 07:17:31 AM »
If it's going to stay in one place..build it stout.  If it needs to move around- or travel...make it light.

I do like breadboard ends for stability.  And use a wood burner to sign the underside of the table for posterity.  It may be the thing you build that lasts the longest! 8)
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Re: Thickness for Table Top ??
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2013, 03:28:50 PM »
I do as Dodgy and not worry about up and down. I often have boards that are only good (clear) on one side. To use them I have to match what looks good. :)

I was also going to suggest, heft and thickness depends on how much your going to be moving it. ;D The thickest table we ever had here was from red pine, with 1-1/2" top. Any hardwood (including old stuff) was 1" thick tops.

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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2013, 03:52:53 PM »
Magic, what ever thickness, shape, size or species you choice to build your table......I know it will look good.
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2013, 10:03:31 PM »
What is the use of the table?  Thicker and heavier for a kitchen table that you'll eat at all the time.  An office table, or a side table I'd build lighter.  I' have an office table I'm building now and the top is  slightly over an inch thick Walnut.  I'm partial to the breadboard end as well.  You could also make your breadboards long(I just learned that term from this post) and your inbetweens short- like this table if it were stretched in the breadboard direction:


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Re: Thickness for Table Top ??
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2013, 10:13:48 PM »
How do you guys attach the breadboard? Biscuits?
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2013, 10:17:24 PM »
That's what I normally use, or dowels.
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2013, 10:21:13 PM »
That's what I normally use, or dowels.

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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2013, 10:27:54 PM »
I got a dowel installation/alignment tool at Sears a number of years ago. I think it goes up to a half inch dowel.
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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2013, 10:34:32 PM »
This is how we attached the breadboard after seeing Lud's timely post on his table project.
It will also be supported with the apron underneath.

 

 
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2013, 10:37:39 PM »
Moose, is this done with a router?
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2013, 10:42:22 PM »
Yes, the groove was done with a table router.
The tongue was made on my radial arm saw.
I just indexed it by hand.  It took a little time but wasn't painful.
A dado blade on a table saw would probably work also.
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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2013, 10:49:40 PM »
Yes, the groove was done with a table router.
The tongue was made on my radial arm saw.
I just indexed it by hand.  It took a little time but wasn't painful.
A dado blade on a table saw would probably work also.

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