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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2013, 10:49:55 AM »
That is correct.

There is no way you can work around them all day without getting stuck a bunch of times even if you are careful. I always come home sore. :)
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2013, 01:53:25 AM »
Back out at the Ranch this weekend.



 
It's springtime in the desert.


 

 
Got up yesterday to a tarantula hawk draging a tarantula toward its lair. By the time I got the camera all I got was the lair.


 

 
Been having trouble with packrats. So we called the exterminator.


 

 
He started checking things out Saturday.

 

 
Saturday sunset.


 

  
The neighbors' kids are growing up.


 

 
But the parents aren't getting any friendlier.


Sunday night the desert smelled like rain.



 

 
Got a nice two incher.


 

 
Beautiful sunrise this morning


 

 
Oh Yeah!


 

  
Exterminator seems to have succeeded, but forgot that now he is thicker.


 

 
Very thankful to be freed from the chicken wire. ;D

Next, he headed straight for under the rattlesnake exterminator neighbors. And so it goes.



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Re: Aforestation of the stickery kind
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2013, 06:04:05 AM »
My Brother in Law and I both really like snakes.  He had tons of them around a few ranches we worked, not rodents of any kind around.  Nice to see you didn't kill him.  Having them around can keep you on your toes, but you don't have to worry about your plants getting chewed on.  Loved the pictures, I miss it.

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Re: Aforestation of the stickery kind
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2013, 06:36:22 AM »
   Great pics , thank-you.  Glad you found my tape measure.  ;D
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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2013, 07:20:24 AM »
Nice pictures of the desert.
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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2013, 07:43:03 AM »
Liked the picts.reminded me of having to stick the equipment in the mornings in in northcenteral Tx.
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« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2013, 04:30:58 PM »
Back from the ranch. Got a few photos.



 

 
Fine timber, about 30" dbh.



 

  
Giant saguaros.



 

 
Hot lady roommate. She seems nice. Hope it works out.



 

 
Dooryard flowers.



 

 
Another view of greenhouses. A degree or two warmer up there.



 

 
Still having isssues with the neighbors.



 

 
The kids are almost grown. There are three.



 

 
Redtail hawk fluff.
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« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2013, 05:17:26 PM »
Really great pics on this thread.
How does the saguaro saw?
I bet the slabs are not nice to handle.
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Re: Aforestation of the stickery kind
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2013, 05:41:05 PM »
I love the "nightshade and black widow" photos by each other, nice touch.  Both are beautiful, both can give you a really challenge if disturbed.

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Re: Aforestation of the stickery kind
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2013, 07:36:11 PM »
So how did the hawk taste? I see all that's left is the down. :D
Move'n on.

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« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2013, 10:44:16 PM »
Thanks guys. Sometimes I feel like she would like to have me for lunch. She's really not too happy especially when I'm 20 feet from the nest taking pictures. I got one while she was screaming at me.

 

 
Just before I snapped this, she dropped her talons just to let me know she means business.
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« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2013, 10:46:33 PM »
Pete, we wait for them to die, when the succulent part rots away, there remains a ring of ribs. When they get this big, the ribs fuse. You could actually mill lumber from one like that. Nothing big, but looks like quarter sawn oak, weighs like balsa wood. ;D 8) 8) 8)
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« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2013, 01:05:48 PM »
I bet you don't use the "hug the tree" method to estimate diameter.  I wouldn't, anyway.

I don't anyway.  I haven't calibrated my arms.

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« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2013, 07:04:03 PM »
You are correct. Saguaros are better looked at than touched. That said you would be surprised at the number of animals that will climb them or build a house in or on one. ;D
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« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2013, 12:06:47 PM »
Back again from Rancho Saguaro. New pictures. ;D



 

 
Little soldiers all in a row, little soldiers just waiting to grow.



 

 
Getting new field ready for planting. About an acre here. Room for thousands.
edit: actually 0.4 acre. I checked it with an app I have.


 

 
Good saguaro dirt, but tough on equipment.




Update. Seems like that nice black widow has moved on to be replaced by conenose kissing bugs. After they suck your blood while you sleep, it itches like crazy for days. I'm all bit up and scratching. Had a herd of javelina come by the cabin night before last. They are stinky.

Out here in all this natural beauty, we sometimes forget what wild and dangerous country this can be. My rancher friend has been missing cattle since winter, losing little by little. They are missing like 80 head. That translates to an 80K loss, really tough when we are in the worst drought since the dust bowl and the prices of cattle are falling...  They thought it was rustlers, but come to start checking, seems like all the deer have disappeared too. Rustlers don't steal deer. Cowboys found 3 calves buried. Lions. Seems like their numbers are way up, they ate the deer and now they have turned to the cattle. Time for a little wildlife management. Got to watch your back at night, and especially worry about kids out here. They got a couple of big ranch dogs a year or so ago. They may be packing up.

A good friend of the rancher was out for Memorial Day weekend for a family outing riding quads on the back roads. Seems he took a curve too fast, slid out and hit a washout at the edge of the road and wiped out at pretty high speed. My friend had a bad feeling, looked back to see him flying headlong through the air. Got back to him, found him scalped front to back, but conscious. Pulled the scalp back over and wrapped him a damp shirt. No cell service there, had to find high ground to call 911. Had to helicopter him out. Turns out in addition to the scalping he has a broken collar bone, neck and back. He is lucky to be alive. Looks like he will have use of both his arms and legs, but a long recovery and who knows how good he will ever be again. He is in his 50's. Before this happened, he said, "I have to stop acting like I'm 18. I'm too old for that." Good thoughts.

Please send good thoughts for him and his family, and be careful out there. It is a dangerous business we do. A second's lapse in attention or judgement can maim or kill.

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« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2013, 02:44:52 PM »
Great pictures!  How long-lived are those giant saguaro?

A good friend of mine in his retirement years had a similar accident.  He was legally blind and had a habit of driving 70 mph on one lane roads at night.  Met head-on with a Sycamore and landed in the woods.  Even after his accident still didn't learn... wasn't even healed up fully got out on his crutches in the mud and fell, re-broke his hip and leg and never walked again.   :-\

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« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2013, 02:48:18 PM »
You could of left the scalping part out,  :(   YUK and OUCH to say the least. That is too bad.
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« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2013, 06:02:03 PM »
Great pictures!  How long-lived are those giant saguaro?

A good friend of mine in his retirement years had a similar accident.  He was legally blind and had a habit of driving 70 mph on one lane roads at night.  Met head-on with a Sycamore and landed in the woods.  Even after his accident still didn't learn... wasn't even healed up fully got out on his crutches in the mud and fell, re-broke his hip and leg and never walked again.   :-\

Nobody really knows for sure, since they live to be at least as old as most of us. There is research to suggest up to 250 years, but I don't buy it. They can grow really fast in good years and almost not at all in poor ones. If you study them during slow growth periods, you get big age numbers. I think it is a really old saguaro if it gets much over 100. There are some at the ranch HQ that are old and dying now that were 4 feet tall during the depression. That would make them in the 90-120 year old range.
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« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2013, 06:39:26 PM »
Why are some the saguaro's proped up with 2x4s does the wind tip them over? I saw a piece in the paper about
the black market for those things in PHX. The park service or blm was putting microchips in them to track them.  (Only 75 in flg today dusty-super windy)

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« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2013, 06:50:10 PM »
The 2 X 4 deals, or other stabilizing methods, help keep the saguaros from falling over until their roots regenerate, which can take up to a couple of years. Lots of saguaros get stolen off of govt. land. That's where they are chipping them, so they can document where they came from in the event of an arrest. Saguaros can only be dug on private land, unless something like a road or pipeline is being put in, and then only with the landowner's permission and a hefty tag fee to the state. Our propagated saguaros will be exempt from these legalities, as propagated material was exempted from the state plant protection law. ;D

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