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Re: Varmit rifle suggestions
« Reply #220 on: August 05, 2014, 07:39:39 PM »
I was just pointing out that deer are varmints. :D
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« Reply #221 on: August 05, 2014, 07:44:27 PM »
Speaking of that...you must have a lot of varmints out your way  ;D
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Re: Varmit rifle suggestions
« Reply #222 on: August 05, 2014, 07:52:01 PM »
I don't see too many of them anymore. Back in the '80's Tim and Groucho would drive "around the block" and see 100 or more. Now, I might see 20 or 30 a year, but I don't go looking for them. As long as they stay out of the road, I'm happy. :D
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Re: Varmit rifle suggestions
« Reply #223 on: August 09, 2014, 12:18:38 AM »
I say you got three great choices. A 10/22 will certainly do the trick and is a fun and accurate gun to shoot. Or for a little more fun while getting the job done, I have a 22 cal Benjamin air rifle that shoots lead almost as fast as the 22. But it is more like a air sniper rifle with a significant scope and is a blast to shoot. Fairly quiet. Also a tack driver. But for pure smile, a 17. All you see is a a pink mist cloud in the scope. The gophers and ground squirrels explode when hit. A slight bit more expensive for ammo, but not much more and easier to find.

As for the .222/.223 for deer? I have used my .222 Savage for the last 3+ decades. Never once did I need a second shot. I can't remember the last time I had an exit hole. There is a good reason they use the .223 in the military.
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« Reply #224 on: August 09, 2014, 01:58:11 AM »
Welcome Gimpy!   8)
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Re: Varmit rifle suggestions
« Reply #225 on: August 09, 2014, 08:26:06 AM »
Piston,
the hollowpoint match rounds have a SMALL hollw in the nose, which causes a low pressure zone in front of the round as it cuts through the air, Helping with stability.

A pistol bullet has a large hollow in the nose, which causes it to expand as it spins through flesh. This bullet opens up but holds together, acting like a saw blade thru flesh, a .45 cal round can open up to 3/4 in or bigger, giving you a larger wound channel, giving you massive loss of blood, and creating shock to the system. Pistol bullet stability is usually not a priority, distance to contact is minimal, and it is traveling subsonic.



Ballistic tip bullets have a "plastic" tip, this tip actually looks the same on both ends . This tip pushes back into the lead bullet as it enters flesh, acting like a wedge and opening the bullet up, sometimes into many pieces depending on velocity and hardness of target.

Pistol bullets travel SUBsonic, which is the reason caliber matters so much. The size of the wound channel is the damaging factor.

Rifle bullets travel SUPERsonic, so they impart a Fluid Shock Wave through the flesh while making the wound channel. I am sure many here have noticed a lot more damage inside a deer than you would think the bullet would make. I have shot a deer in the neck and find it's heart to be jello when opened up.
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