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Re: block heater for a Cat D-318
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2013, 02:58:03 PM »
I hauled logs for a guy that had hookups on the work pickups, that he'd pull up to the equipment when he got to work, hookup the hoses and it would circulate the warm water from the pickup engine to the equipment engine. Sure seemed to work slick and he could get stuff started easily at -40!
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Re: block heater for a Cat D-318
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2013, 03:44:55 PM »
hardtailjohn, I'm gonna keep that one in mind.  I have often wondered how to circulate the heat from my work/plow truck to the cat dozer.  Time to do a bit of research on this idea, cuz shes a hard starter below about 30.
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Re: block heater for a Cat D-318
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2013, 04:10:46 PM »
I hauled logs for a guy that had hookups on the work pickups, that he'd pull up to the equipment when he got to work, hookup the hoses and it would circulate the warm water from the pickup engine to the equipment engine. Sure seemed to work slick and he could get stuff started easily at -40!

That's been talked about many times before and it's not a good idea as far as the engine in your pickup. The thermal shock when the cold coolant hits the warm pickup engine will crack blocks, heads, etc. If you have a newer pickup under warranty, if the dealer sees those hot swap hoses on your pickup, he will void your waranty immediately.

Don't know if you can get by with it if you have an older cast iron engine, but the newer alloy heads will not take the thermal stress. Best to find another way to preheat your engine.
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« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2013, 10:34:26 PM »
Gary-C I never heard of him having much problems, but that sure makes sense to me. I assumed that there was some sort of restrictor in there to keep it from all hitting at once?  Probably on the new computer controlled stuff, it'd shut down the whole mess!
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Re: block heater for a Cat D-318
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2013, 05:35:39 AM »
interesting, thats probably enuf research for me :D
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Re: block heater for a Cat D-318
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2013, 05:22:16 AM »
The side recirculating heaters are made by Kim out of Spokane Wa. Look up KIM Hotstart on Ebay. I have a Kim on both my mill and generator. I just bought a new one for the generator for a hundred bucks. Found someone on Ebay selling kids clothes, shoes, etc. with a New Kim Hotstart in the middle of all that stuff. I figured they didn't know what they had so I offered $60 less than their buy it now price and they took It.

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« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2013, 07:00:32 AM »
Dave,is that Kim the one that uses propane or kero and a flame,seems that would be perfect for a no electric power mill. Frank C.
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Re: block heater for a Cat D-318
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2013, 08:20:26 AM »
The one I got was electric, I am not sure about alternate heat sources but you could check their web site. Price goes way up when you stray from 120/240v and get above 2000watts. At least that is what I found when looking for mine. The Cummins on the mill came with a 240v version and my gen set had a 120v model. Both had integrated stat.

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Re: block heater for a Cat D-318
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2013, 09:10:53 AM »
Hi Mt Horse
I grew up there. I may have some names for you. send me a privet message  with your number. I also live south of you 125 miles.
I should be passing though that way in a couple of weeks. would like to see your set up.

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