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My rule of thumb
« on: December 14, 2013, 05:50:42 AM »
Had a guy email me this week wanting to give me 150 trees in exchange for sawing him 30-30' beams out of said trees. He sent pictures of a pile of trees covered in mud and mushrooms growing out of the ends. Most of the trees looked to be about 8" across. I let him know my mill will saw a maximum of 20' and my rule of thumb is that I only saw trees that have been fell two weeks or less. So I politely declined his offer and he was offended.

Since this is a hobby of mine and I don't need the wood, my rule of thumb is to only saw trees that have been fell for two weeks or less. Picky? Maybe, but again, this just a hobby. I made this rule since I know that after only two weeks there should not be any bugs moved in that could contaminate my other lumber(if I have any on site), and there hasn't been time for uneven drying to occur inducing stresses in the logs. In addition, I feel that this process yields the nicest lumber and let's me control drying. Just my rule and wondering if anyone has similar?

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Re: My rule of thumb
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2013, 06:48:11 AM »
Your the boss on your mill Dave,and especially if your not relying on it for a living.That could be a little strict, I've cut some of my best lumber from logs so old the bark has fallen off.First time I've heard of the insect infestation,my stuff is usally sold off the mill or stacked well away from it.Your wise to pass on those crappy logs people always want you to make chicken soup from chicken poop. Frank C.
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Re: My rule of thumb
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2013, 06:57:11 AM »
As Frank said, it's your show,  and I have also sawed old logs.  Never with mushrooms growing from them, I say do what you want.  Not sure why he is upset though, if you only saw 20', he should understand the limitations.   And bartering has to work for both parties,     david
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Re: My rule of thumb
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2013, 07:07:10 AM »
You absolutely make the rules concerning your operation whether it be a business or hobby.

For example, I do not buy logs, sell lumber, or saw on shares.  I do  not have sheds to store lumber and I have not developed a market for lumber.  That keeps me in the sawing business instead of the lumber business.  My decision.
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Re: My rule of thumb
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2013, 08:00:59 AM »
25 to 30 years ago when we did custom sawing, one fellow wanted me to log some poplar on shares and to saw his share into lumber.  I said I would do it on 1/2s.  I stated I would get 1/2 the logs by scale and divide  fairly and I would saw his 1/2 for 1/2 divided fairly.  He thought that since I would get 3/4 of the lumber, that I was ripping him off.  No deal.  First and last time I ever considered shares.
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Re: My rule of thumb
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2013, 08:10:27 AM »
Like MM I don't want to be in the lumber business. I don't have storage for such and I don't want to be responsible for drying other peoples lumber. My MO is, you bring logs(I can get them and transport for a fee), I saw lumber, you pay cash and take your lumber home at the end of the day.

Logs with mushrooms growing out of them just didn't fit that model.

Maybe I should put that on the back of my calling card so there is no confusion?

Thanks for the input guys. I always value your opinions.

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Re: My rule of thumb
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2013, 08:25:48 AM »
The only thing to be said for logs with mushrooms might be this:

 

 
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Re: My rule of thumb
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2013, 10:14:00 AM »
Thirty foot beams takes special support equipment too. And I would think a little know how too. And a certain mill too. I know it can be done by sawing and than moving the log,but thirty of them.   :o  And than you said about 8 inches across too. And than the mud part too.
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Re: My rule of thumb
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2013, 08:11:46 PM »
     You can sugar coat it any way you want.  But you gave him the correct, simple, one word answer from your point of view.  NO!
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Re: My rule of thumb
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2013, 07:19:46 AM »
some jobs you just have to walk a way from  :D :D
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2013, 10:02:50 AM »
Or run away from.
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Re: My rule of thumb
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2013, 10:32:41 AM »
Reminds me of a job I turned down this past Summer.

Guy called saying he had about 2,000 bf of White Cedar that he wanted to have sawed into 2x6 and 2x4.

I told him that my minimum size on the small end was 8 inches and he said "no problem".

Well I went and looked before bringing the mill and the average diameter on the small ends was 5-7 inches, so I told him I would still come out, but the job would be hourly at $50.00per.

Well he got P.O.'d and stormed off, I told his son (about 24yo or so) that I guess he's not interested and he shrugged his shoulders, so I just went home.

There are times when you just have to draw the line!
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2013, 07:34:09 PM »
Funny how logs tend to shrink just before they are to be milled... happens all the time....   Heres my rules of thumb.. 1: Any logs left for 30 days with no cut list will be disposed of at my discretion.... 2: Any lumber that is not picked up in 30 days will be sold to cover the sawing   3: Any logs under 10 inches inside the bark on the little end or under 8 feet in length or logs with excessive sweep will be sawed by the hour @$50.00 an hour....   Banjo
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