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Cutting Telephone Poles
« on: February 19, 2014, 02:16:51 PM »
 Got a phone call today from a fellow who wants me to cut up a bunch of used telephone poles.(Not sure how much is a bunch) He's 240 miles from my location.We discussed mileage,hr. rates. hotels etc.He wants to use them for horse& cattle fences.Maybe 3-4 slices per pole.As a green sawyer I'm concerned about the hard kreosote poles & metal in them.Not sure how many I can cut in/hr.-16' long? I have an LT35 manual with deck package.He's trying to buy the poles and I'm trying to do the research as this is out of my league? Help ???

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Re: Cutting Telephone Poles
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2014, 02:26:37 PM »
There are quite a few posts in the archives about milling used utility poles.  The general consensus is stay away from the creosote treated poles, but it's ok to mill redwood and cedar poles as long as you have a good metal detector.

I've used a chainsaw to cut utility poles for farm buildings, but there is no way that I would mill one on one of my sawmills.
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Re: Cutting Telephone Poles
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2014, 02:42:52 PM »
I know only what I read on here about it,don't do it. The sawdust is nasty,it stinks,REAL bad to breath in the dust. It gets on your clothes and than if you jump in your truck,it's in your truck, The smell is not good.
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Re: Cutting Telephone Poles
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2014, 02:51:45 PM »
I woudl recommend at a minimum to use a resporater of mask if you have to saw creosote; well actually I would first advise against and then mask up.  If the poles were in the country I would not be too concerned with metal other than the huge metal staples and grounding wire.  If the poles where in town, stay away with a 10' pole.

P.S. Old man used to climb poles (Electrical Lineman) for a local co-op and we always had the beck kindling wood  ;) very old air dried poles, split very nicely.

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Re: Cutting Telephone Poles
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2014, 03:08:58 PM »
Being 240 miles away , you're playing on his home field.
 Common sense would dictate to me that he's already contacted sawyers near him and they didn't want to do it for one reason or another.   I'd say forget it, you're flirting with disaster.
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Re: Cutting Telephone Poles
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2014, 03:12:12 PM »
I personally won't saw anything treated. I don't know about creosote, but the newer treatments are really bad news. I've heard that besides the health issues, it can be really hard on the metal of the mill. A friend of mine has an 85' power pole that is something like 3' on the big end. We were going to saw it up into 6x6 for a pole barn, but after some research, we left it where it was.
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Re: Cutting Telephone Poles
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2014, 03:43:14 PM »
 

   I mill them all the time.  I cut the butt end off, that is treated and mill the rest.  The best thing with them is you can see all the steel.  I have the customer remove the nails prior to my arrival.  They have all been past through a metal detector at the pole mill.  Make sure you set-up up wind.
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Re: Cutting Telephone Poles
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2014, 05:18:25 PM »
I do not saw utility poles.  I once sawed some bridge timbers.  The creosote build up on the blade was really bad. 

The customer will not be getting the treated lumber that he thinks because it is difficult if not impossible to get any significant amount of preservative into the center of the pole.  When the pole is sliced open, this untreated wood is thus exposed to the elements.  But what do I know?  I only spent 32+ years in the telephone industry.

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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2014, 05:31:58 PM »
This has been on here before, as Mr. Smith posted. Three words come to mind: DO NOT MILL! go_away
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2014, 05:47:33 PM »
Maybe your guys poles are different than the ones we use in Canada.  All of ours are Western Red cedar and the lumber is beautiful.  I have sided many homes with this wood.
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2014, 05:49:20 PM »
Maybe. I know all the old, abandoned poles I see clearing are creosote toothpicks from stem to stern. Only thing I touch them with is an excavator.
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2014, 05:52:36 PM »
On ours they only treat the end that goes in the ground.
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Re: Cutting Telephone Poles
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2014, 05:56:02 PM »
You are exactly right WellandportRob.  There is a big difference.  Jumpbutt yours and saw them.

The OP mentioned "hard kreosote poles" which indicated that he had been contacted about sawing fully treated creosote poles.
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Re: Cutting Telephone Poles
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2014, 05:57:26 PM »
Being 240 miles away , you're playing on his home field.
 Common sense would dictate to me that he's already contacted sawyers near him and they didn't want to do it for one reason or another.   I'd say forget it, you're flirting with disaster.

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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2014, 05:58:49 PM »
Add me to the "run away" crowd. I let a neighbor talk me into quartering some. Never again. He used them for fence posts, and sure enough they promptly rotted away, everything but the outer inch or so..There is a reason the power companies will give them to you..
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2014, 05:59:07 PM »
You are exactly right WellandportRob.  There is a big difference.  Jumpbutt yours and saw them.

The OP mentioned "hard kreosote poles" which indicated that he had been contacted about sawing fully treated creosote poles.
My apologizes,  I do not cut anything that has been treated.
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Re: Cutting Telephone Poles
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2014, 06:20:42 PM »
Down here, we used creosote poles, and then later they shifted to the green poles. Creosote are easier to climb, it's hard to get a spike in one of the green poles.

Both of them, the bottom 10' or so will be full of nails, staples, and whatever else some enterprising individual could find to fasten a sign with.

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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2014, 06:30:25 PM »
I turn down a few telephone pole jobs each year, it's just not worth the hassle.

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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2014, 06:41:50 PM »
Thanks fellows I believe I'll stay away from those critters! :-\b Daniel

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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2014, 08:50:25 PM »
The way to do it is to leave the poles whole for fence posts then cut oak or whatever for boarding. Frank C.
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