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Re: who's ready to make some maple syrup?
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2014, 01:02:16 AM »
Here's a couple pictures of my fun for the day. I tapped a couple Box Elder tress just to see what I could come up with and am quite impressed. I took in about a half a gallon and cooked it down and after switching pots and what was left in the pots I still ended up with 1/8th of a cup. BUT, I know it works and can go from here with a much, much larger amount, and do it on an outside fire.

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Re: who's ready to make some maple syrup?
« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2014, 07:26:11 AM »
Setting taps, or starting to set taps tonight then over the weekend.  We missed the first run.  There are four of us in on it.  I started it outside on a woodstove had a couple buddies interested so they came over one afternoon for some beers, venison on the grill, and the chaos started.  We have about 400 taps and grow every year.  It became an expensive hobby really fast!  Great time though.  We had a facebook page I am not sure if it still up and running but it was greenleaf maple coop if you want to check it out
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Re: who's ready to make some maple syrup?
« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2014, 04:05:35 PM »
A question for the pros. I drilled holes and placed my 6 taps in sugar maples today. 5 of them were placed on the south side of the trees and started dripping immediately, 1 was placed on the north side of a tree and not a drop has come out of it. Does it matter which side of the tree you place the tap on?
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Re: who's ready to make some maple syrup?
« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2014, 05:30:51 PM »
It is said to place on the south side.  I have done both and have a small main line set up on a North facing slope and I have not seen a difference really.
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Re: who's ready to make some maple syrup?
« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2014, 08:29:54 PM »
Another question for the pros. The wife is dying to make some maple syrup. This will be the wife's project,so she says. She will tap 4-5 trees. How long can we keep the sap in a fridge before she needs to boil it. She understands she may be boiling only a few quarts at a time. All boiling will be done in the house,which I know is not the best idea,but all she wants is a quart. Than next year I'll be cutting wood so she can do it outside.  ::)
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« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2014, 08:37:05 PM »
Another question for the pros. The wife is dying to make some maple syrup. This will be the wife's project,so she says. She will tap 4-5 trees. How long can we keep the sap in a fridge before she needs to boil it. She understands she may be boiling only a few quarts at a time. All boiling will be done in the house,which I know is not the best idea,but all she wants is a quart. Than next year I'll be cutting wood so she can do it oitside.  ::)

Just in the fridge should last 4-5 days and be okay, frozen indefinitely but here's a trick that will cut your boiling if you watch it. Put it in the freezer or outside, and when it starts to freeze, pick off the ice and throw it away. The ice holds very little sugar and you can actually concentrate it some by repeated part freeze if not frozen in a solid block. Also be ready to re-paper your kitchen if she boils a lot inside. maybe she knows that  ;)

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« Reply #46 on: March 06, 2014, 08:39:21 PM »
No wall paper in the kitchen. I tried to tell her,but no telling her nothing. She is just like her Father.  ::)
She does have a small fan in the kitchen window,maybe 8 feet from the stove? That MIGHT help. Or that is what she told me.
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Re: who's ready to make some maple syrup?
« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2014, 09:38:22 PM »
Doing that in the house will make the walls and ceiling sticky. :D
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« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2014, 09:55:16 PM »
It is said to place on the south side.  I have done both and have a small main line set up on a North facing slope and I have not seen a difference really.
I did all mine facing south and also inline with major branches farther up the tree.  I'm going to experiment with a north facing tap or two this year.

Ray, I've read/heard of ppl storing up to two weeks but it's not recommended.  Longest I went last year was maybe a week.  I gotta agree with OH Boy and Peter, do the majority of your boiling outside if you can.  With 4-5 taps and good trees you may be surprised at how much sap you get.  Like I said I had 12 taps last year, two taps filling 1gal jugs.  When it really started flowing I was emptying those jugs twice a day and towards the end of the season I was just pouring it out on the ground! :D  Well it was the end of 'my' season at least, it was taking up too much time!
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Re: who's ready to make some maple syrup?
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2014, 11:08:18 PM »
That little bit that I cooked off last night was about 1/2 gallon and my stove and counters all had a nice coating from it.
I'm kind of baffled by how much sap I'm getting out of these little Box Elder trees though. Last night I got 1/2 a gallon in a few hours and since then the 3 taps I have in probably got me less than that from 8 pm last night until about noon today, and it was even warmer out today. Hmph!

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Re: who's ready to make some maple syrup?
« Reply #50 on: March 06, 2014, 11:21:55 PM »
A question for the pros. I drilled holes and placed my 6 taps in sugar maples today. 5 of them were placed on the south side of the trees and started dripping immediately, 1 was placed on the north side of a tree and not a drop has come out of it. Does it matter which side of the tree you place the tap on?
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Don't worry, that tap on the north side is still frozen. The sap on the north comes later. Trees should be tapped in an upward spiral to the right or downward to the the left, depends on the amount of snow . 3" over and 3" up. Always careful not to be above or below a previous tap hole. Sap only comes from white sap wood. The tree will stain up to 3' above and below a previous hole resulting in dead sapwood.
Each tap will produce about 1 qt of syrup per season.
When your sap starts to turn milky it is the sugar turning, and will result in darker syrup.
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« Reply #51 on: March 07, 2014, 08:17:56 AM »
 We`ve just received an updated calculation of the true cost of making Maple Syrup, with wood as a fuel source. While the actual cost of items will vary from region to region ,we believe that the overall figures should be accurate .
 
 
        Item
 
1.    Evaporator 2x4 ( Hobby Model ) ............$2,100.00
2.    Pipe, Installation........................... .............212.00
3.    Chain saw.................................... .............249.00
4.    Gas, maintenance for saw .........................144.00
5.    Four wheel drive pickup.........................12,379.00
6.    Maintenance for pickup..............................656 .00
7.    Insurance for pickup................................. .879.00
8.    Replace rear window of pickup (twice).........600.00
9.    Fine for cutting in Conservation area.........1000.00
10.  Fourteen Case Coors Light........................560.00
11.  Littering fine................................... ..........500.00
12.  Tow charge from wreck.............................175.0 0
13.  Overbilling from Doctor re:splinter in eye.....250.00
14.  Safety glasses................................ ...........29.50
15.  Overbilling from Doctor re:crushed toes......200.00
16.  Safety Boots.................................. .........175.00
17.  New Livingroom carpet............................1200. 00
18.  Chimney brush an Rods............................125.00
19.  Log splitting Maul................................... .....80.00
20.  Chiropractor fees re:back...........................750.00
21.  Log splitter............................... ..............1750.00
22.  Fifteen Acre woodlot.............................20,000.00
23.  Taxes on woodlot................................ .....900.00
24.  Buckets an Spiles ....................................   50.00
25   Containers with labels .............................1500.00
26.  Divorce Settlement ............................ 250,000.00
 
       Total first year`s Costs......................296,463.50
       Value of Maple Syrup sale`s First year......8,754.00
        First Year Profit or (Loss) .................(287,709.50)
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Re: who's ready to make some maple syrup?
« Reply #52 on: March 07, 2014, 08:36:32 PM »
BBTom, You did make a lot of syrup on 50 bucks worth of buckets and spiles.

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Re: who's ready to make some maple syrup?
« Reply #53 on: March 08, 2014, 07:42:18 AM »
Should be pretty nice here this afternoon, it's 34 now!

Tapping and hanging about 125 buckets today!

The pipeline should start dripping later today!
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« Reply #54 on: March 08, 2014, 02:12:00 PM »
Ice tea jugs stink to use for collecting sap. It freezes in them and won't come out until the sun melts it.
 

 
 The tap on the north side never started flowing so I pulled it out plugged the hole and switched it to the south and all is well. Got about 5 1/2 gallons of sap between yesterday afternoon and this morning from the 6 taps. Cooking it down in my garage in a 5 gallon outdoor wok which seems to work ok. In the beginning some foam formed which I scooped it off and now am able to evaporate over a gallon a hour in the 24" wok. 


 
  I would not recommend cooking it down inside as the mist is quite sticky and would make a mess. I have my doors open with a breeze blowing through and the vapor still sticks to everything. This is fun, off to tractor supply to get another 6 spies and a candy thermometer.
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« Reply #55 on: March 08, 2014, 02:51:34 PM »
This is fun, off to tractor supply to get another 6 spies and a candy thermometer.
:D  It's like the scene from Airplane, "I picked the wrong day to quit making syrup!" ;) :D  Looks great 21!  Get some kind of 'shield' around your burner and wok and I'll bet you'll see a faster burn. :)  Oh and I found shaking the snot out of the jugs will bust up the ice enough so you can at least pour out the sap into whatever storage you're using.  Depending on the amount of ice of course.

Finally got the taps in this afternoon.  The first pic was the first two taps, the second pic is the same jug 1 1/2 hours later! :o  Should have a mess of the stuff come this time tomorrow.  Gotta get hoppin on sap storage and my evaporator!

  

  

 
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« Reply #56 on: March 08, 2014, 03:15:09 PM »
Well, we went over a little, we tapped and added 155 buckets, so now we have 879 taps on pipeline and the 155 buckets for a total of 1,034 taps!

A few of them were dripping today, so hopefully they'll be running tomorrow!
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« Reply #57 on: March 08, 2014, 05:44:52 PM »
for a total of 1,034 taps!
:o :o  Holy mackrel Chuck!  I'm thinking about doubling my taps to 24, only 1,010 til I catch up! ;) ;D  You might have said before but what kind of arch are you using?  Wood, gas or oil fired?
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« Reply #58 on: March 08, 2014, 07:09:03 PM »
Not mine!

Belongs to my brother Jack!

The evaporator (arch) is 3' X 8', wood fired, made by Maple Pro and distributed by CDL of Vermont.

This outfit can evaporate around 70 gallons per hour!

I really enjoy helping out at the sugar shack!

There are a lot of rigs out there that are H U G E compared to this one!  :o
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« Reply #59 on: March 08, 2014, 07:56:06 PM »
Well Chunk, here's a small one and low budget at that. Just want to make sure the wife can handle it all.
JohnM helped me out ALOT.
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