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Flight MH 370, the missing Jumbo Jet..

Started by chain, March 10, 2014, 12:43:32 PM

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Magicman

Wonder what caused the oil slick that was originally spotted?  I wonder if a sample was taken to analyze to determine if it was jet fuel?

Maybe the plane had the capability to dump fuel as a diversion tactic?
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I read or heard somewhere that the slick was not aircraft related.
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LeeB

The pictures I saw of it did not look like a fuel slick. Much heavyer than that. Looked more like, and I hate to say this, something from drilling ar somebody blew their bilges. Fuel slicks will be shiny and multi colored, or at least that is my experiance.
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Quote from: Magicman on March 12, 2014, 09:46:01 AM
Wonder what caused the oil slick that was originally spotted?  I wonder if a sample was taken to analyze to determine if it was jet fuel?

Maybe the plane had the capability to dump fuel as a diversion tactic?

The Vietnamese recovered a sample and sent it to a lab. They reported it be something other than jet fuel or lubricant, according to press reports.

NWP

I read they now suspect it flew for hours after the transponder quit. The engines automatically upload data while in flight an this is how they figured it out. The transponder doesn't get turned off and the plane gets flown for several more hours on accident. It's somewhere. And probably not at the bottom of the ocean    If you wanted to steal a plane, make them search millions of acres of ocean while you land it somewhere far away. Great diversion tactic.
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Brucer

I read that, then I read that Malaysian authorities denied it.

The latest (from a US official) is that Boeing has a satellite data service to monitor aircraft function (for a fee) but that Malaysia airlines didn't subscribe to it.

The plane's system was automatically pinging the satellite but without the subscription, no actual data was sent. The ping signal went on for 4 hours after the last communication. All the official can say for sure is that the Boeing transmitter had power during that time.
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chain

I can speculate with the best of 'em. What if terrorists were on board, they introduced a chemical that neutralized everyone within minutes, except the terrorists. The terrorist turns off all communications and flys the jet over ocean until engines fail, mission accomplished.

The  purpose is to put fear into the commercial aviation industry knowing the cause will not be known for a long time.

I hope I'm terribly wrong.

bedway

I think our government or others know whats happened to to it and its a terrorist situation and their trying to figure out how to deal with it.

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terry f

   Nice to think it landed somewhere and they are all alive, but just not probable. Its a big ocean and I'm afraid that's where it will be found soon.

5quarter

I haven't followed this too closely, but I feared from the beginning that the plane was commandeered...a terrifying prospect. As bad as it sounds, I was and am still hoping that the plane somehow took a nosedive into the ocean and is gone.A tragedy certainly, but the alternative is unthinkable.
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Freedom6178

I haven't followed this to closely but if the Maylasian Air Force suspected terrorists could they have shot the plane down and made a story that the plane changed coarse after the transponder stopped? I hope not but it could have happened..
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chain

The Malaysian authorities seem terribly inept in reporting all information, fortunately I think they're out of the main picture now and we have much more responsible and less political entities involved.

But, what about the crew, the stewards, and those more than two hundred innocent passengers flying nowhere for several hours. Were they all incapacitated by some form of gas ? No contacts by personal cell phones. Did the perpetrator turn off the oxygen and heating, then fly up to 45,000' to make sure no one could survive?

POSTON WIDEHEAD

They have already reported that if you called their cell phone.....it would ring......but the phone itself would not ring because of the altitude of the plane away from the cell tower.

I'm believing, like you said chain.....the oxygen was turned off and the plane went to 45,000 ft.....it would then be "seconds" for the passengers to go right to sleep and die.

Now, when the plane went back down to 23,000......it is possible the dead were thrown out to sea or left on the plane.

But I am sticking to my first thoughts that this plane is on the ground somewhere. It was landed by at least 2 well educated terrorist who knew the operations of this plane blind folded. Pilots, and everyone else are gone.

We hear people complaining all the time how Government can take satellite and zoom in on the earth and read your tag number or can see what your eating........why can we not look for this plane in the same manner? The U.S. may be. It was reported that we (the U.S.) probably know more than they can tell and I believe that.

For the last 3 days I've keep hearing the subject UFO coming up.......No comment.  :)

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Ianab

There are only a finite number of places where that size plane could have landed (in one piece)  Even less where it could be landed AND hidden. Maybe 5 in the whole of NZ? You can bet that satellites have taken snaps of those places to check, even if the locals haven't looked over the fence and tweeted about the new plane there. Hijack / piracy gone wrong? Crew gone off the deep end? Sounds most likely. But I still think it's now in bits at the bottom of the ocean.

State sponsored terrorism? Doubt it. Anyone with the resources to pull that off could just charter a commercial jet anyway.

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POSTON WIDEHEAD

Good point of view Ian. This whole tragic event is probably a movie in the making.
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LeeB

Sure gives me a warm fuzzy feeling about all the flying I do.  :(
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drobertson

Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on March 16, 2014, 03:02:55 PM
Good point of view Ian. This whole tragic event is probably a movie in the making.
Don't you know it,  I can't help but think about what it must have been like when Amelia went missing,
albeit a totally different situation, tragic all the same,
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POC

And that's all I have to say about that,
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NWP

I just read that the last voice transmission was made after the transponder and tracking devices were turned off. Weird.
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drobertson

the more I see on the news and what I've read on this, I almost hate to say it seems like a conspiracy of some sort.  How could it be so perfectly disguised? No contact from anyone, the pilot's keen understanding of the plane, not that all pilots don't have the same,  but this is a strange case, almost like they were hired to ditch and bale out, who knows, 
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giant splinter

I just hope they find the aircraft and that everyone is ok
roll with it

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