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Ready to purchase a mill
« on: March 15, 2014, 10:12:38 PM »
I'm a newcomer on the Forum , but I've been reading the FF and doing my homework and have narrowed my first mill down to several brands: WMLT10, Norwood LM29, TK1200 and maybe the Timbery M280. They are all within the same price range (+/- a few hundred $$) and the horsepowers are about the same. I went to the WoodMizer dealer 45 minutes away and they showed me the LT15.....should have never looked!!

I plan to mill lumber for a 40x60 barn, a greenhouse, shed, etc over the years out of southern pine and cedar.

My question is this: will the 10-14 hp be enough, or should I consider jumping my budget and investing in the next level?
 

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Re: Ready to purchase a mill
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2014, 10:18:24 PM »
Hello Petfixer, and Welcome to the Forestry forum.  I have never heard of anyone removing a larger engine and installing a smaller one.   ;D  There are several members here that have upgraded from an LT10 to a LT15.
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2014, 10:31:39 PM »
Welcome. The first mill I ever set eyes on was an lt10. I asked the owner who I know only because he is the brother of a coworker about pushing the blade through the whole length of the log. He said that it can be hard work.

I went with the lt15 and the power feed. I did went with Woodmizer mainly because there is a woodmizer dealer nearby. However I am soooooooo glad I at least got the power feed.

No one is kidding when they say manual mills are a lot of work. For what it's worth, having a power feed is a must for any type of volume sawing. From what you described I consider you to be sawing in volume for a while.

A big motor probably helps too I have no experiance with that one.

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Re: Ready to purchase a mill
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2014, 10:33:19 PM »
Welcome to the forum Petfixer,

Go bigger you will not regret it, and make sure you look at all the vendors on the left side
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Re: Ready to purchase a mill
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2014, 10:34:10 PM »
Petfixer……I'm gonna go out on a limb here……..are you a Veterinarian?
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2014, 10:41:51 PM »
Petfixer……I'm gonna go out on a limb here……..are you a Veterinarian? 
Now why are you accusing Petfixer of being a vegetarian.  After da pets are fixed dere's always meat on da table.   :D :D
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Re: Ready to purchase a mill
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2014, 11:05:56 PM »
Welcome Petfixer
     I have an LT 15 with 25 HP and power feed, only way to go.
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2014, 11:08:01 PM »
Hello Petfixer, and Welcome to the Forestry forum.  I have never heard of anyone removing a larger engine and installing a smaller one.   ;D  There are several members here that have upgraded from an LT10 to a LT15.
Personally that's 1 reason I went with the EZboardwalk, bigger motors work better at my altitude especially.
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2014, 11:26:34 PM »
Welcome the Forum, Petfixer.  Power feed allows me to to rest a few seconds between all the other manual tasks of milling.  When I had a helper with the LT10, I sat on a bench at the end, set the head height and let him push the head back and forth.  I liked that   :D

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Re: Ready to purchase a mill
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2014, 11:54:27 PM »
I've mentioned in several threads that I waited 10 years to buy a mill I could afford.  I ended up with a very used lt40.  I could have a much nicer mill but each board has 0 financial stress attached.  You will be happier with a larger engine etc.  just balance that with the satisfaction of staying in budget.

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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2014, 01:38:10 AM »
Have been treating dogs & cats for 26 years, and enjoying it still! Now starting to have some time for hobbies!! Thanks for your input, need to do a little more research on a higher price point.....

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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2014, 06:16:41 AM »
welcome to you petfixer.  As soon as a prospective sawyer mentions the budget, I must remind them of the USED sawmill market.  This will definitely open up options for power feeds, etc.  I think I'm hearing you say that there's a lot of projects around your place needing lumber, but that you can take them on one by one and not rush them.  I have a manual mill, bought it used.  I was on a strict budget.  I believe I got 3 to 4 times the mill than had I bought new with cash.  Also, they hold their value as well as any machinery I've been around

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Re: Ready to purchase a mill
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2014, 07:38:57 AM »
Petfixer,welcome to the forum. How much will this mill be used? Kinda looks like you will do the same as me,saw a while,build awhile,saw awhile,build a while. I suppose you have your own land with trees? How will you get the trees out? I have a Thomas manaul saw mill. No auto nothing,just a very simple mill, I have been pushing that head through the logs since 2002. Even had my 13 year old grandson do it. It must of been easy or he would not of done it. It does not even rake,too much like work for him.  ::)
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2014, 07:52:09 AM »
Petfix, your back is well worth upgrading to a hydraulic mill with all the fixens, don't cheap out, we only go this way once. If milling doesn't tickle you right you can always sell the mill with little loss. Oh and welcome. Don't overlook used mills if you can find one. You didn't say where your from, I'am sure we have members close and you could try different mills. Frank C.
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Re: Ready to purchase a mill
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2014, 07:54:43 AM »
Welcome. Visit a couple of members, and play with their mill. MOST of us are pretty agreeable folks. I am SURE anyone with a manual mill will let you push for a while! 8)

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Re: Ready to purchase a mill
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2014, 08:06:11 AM »
Welcome Petfixer
     I have an LT 15 with 25 HP and power feed, only way to go.

I agree.  That is a fine combination.  The powerfeed is wonderful. 
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2014, 10:13:36 AM »
We have a small piece of land outside of Auburn, Alabama with lots of pines and hardwoods. Will be building a house (contractor, not me) this year and I will be building everything else. Hope to build a barn, greenhouse/gardening shed, outbuildings, forts for grandchildren, etc...

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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2014, 10:58:19 AM »
I'm might know where a good used lt40 super hyd is for around 6k
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2014, 12:28:26 PM »
I have an lt10 and love it.  The larger engine option for an LT10 adds about $400.00 over rthe smaller engine.  It's all I need and it cost less than half the cost for an lt15.  It really boils downj to your choice of purchase price.  The mobility of the factory installed wheels is  A nice feature on the lt15.  With a sharp blade the LT10 slips easily through a log

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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2014, 01:27:22 PM »
You should have never entered this forum.You are a doomed man.If the humor doesn't get you,it will be grits,and there is always an up grade and never ending more equipment to buy,swap or borrow.My two cents-WM LT-15,power feed,lots of hp.

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