Older saw year

[jwilly3879]

I have 3 older saws and need some help with the year of manufacture. I have picked them all up used, the 670 and the 272 both run well, the 268xp was a gift from a firewood customer and has no compression but is in nice condition and all the pieces are there.

670 Jonsered sn 910750 (twin coils)
268xp sn 1080400
272xp sn 1510023

Thanks

[HolmenTree]

I have 3 older saws and need some help with the year of manufacture. I have picked them all up used, the 670 and the 272 both run well, the 268xp was a gift from a firewood customer and has no compression but is in nice condition and all the pieces are there.

670 Jonsered sn 910750 (twin coils)
268xp sn 1080400
272xp sn 1510023

Thanks
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The 670 I believe was the 750th unit built in the 1st week of 1989
268XP 400th unit built  in the 8th week of 1991
272XP 23rd unit  built in the 51th week of 1991 (is there 51 weeks in a year?)

[HolmenTree]

I kinda messed up that last post....SawTroll will be around in about 4 hours and he'll straighten it out :D

[Al_Smith]

Yeah ole Niko most is  likely snoring up a storm about now .It's about 6 hour time difference from there to here in eastern day light time zone .

[sablatnic]

Holmen Tree nailed it, and there are 51 weeks in a year, 52 weeks, actually, except for the long years, with 53 weeks.

Great saws, but look after the crank shaft seals. They are prone wear out, but are easily replaced.

[SawTroll]

I have 3 older saws and need some help with the year of manufacture. I have picked them all up used, the 670 and the 272 both run well, the 268xp was a gift from a firewood customer and has no compression but is in nice condition and all the pieces are there.

670 Jonsered sn 910750 (twin coils)
268xp sn 1080400
272xp sn 1510023

Thanks

670: 1989 week 10 - so a Super, but not a Super II

268xp: 1991 week 8 = a late one

272xp: 1991 week 51 = a very early one.

Those saws together is a very nice "time capsule", that still will do a very good job if in order!  8)

[HolmenTree]

Yes those are a really nice "time capsule" trio  Niko.
The best of the pro grade saws at the time when mechanical harvesters replaced them for good in most parts of the world.
I first thought the 670 was built in the 10th week,  but then upon noticing it's serial # is 6 digits rather then 7 as the newer saws have.....I figured it should then be the 1st week with a 0 to space the unit # digits for room if the unit count goes over a thousand for that week.
But then having said that the companies probably never had a 1000 units per week production until  later on in 1990 anyways.
I could be wrong, what do you think?

[jwilly3879]

I bought the 272xp used in 1994 for $250 and have used it as a header saw for many years, I can't begin to guess how much wood I've cut with it. The only repairs have been 2 carb rebuilds, AV mounts and a p+c about 4 years ago.

I got the 670 at an auction for $85 it turned over hard as it had set for years. I filled the crankcase and cylinder with mystery oil and left it for a month, drained it and it puled over nicely, new plug, gas and oil and it fired right up. Been running it for 3 years now on and off with only a new clutch spring.

The 268 was a gift and will get a new p+c, at least a new piston and ring and see what else.

These three go with a 372xp (2003) I got for $200 and it runs great and a 2054 Turbo that is used for small stuff. The newest saw is a 2005 372xp that TJ240 has cut down with for the last 4 years, before that it only cut firewood.

Thanks for the replies. The fellow I got the 268 from thinks he may also have a 266 in the barn. That would complete the set.

[SawTroll]

Yes those are a really nice "time capsule" trio  Niko.
The best of the pro grade saws at the time when mechanical harvesters replaced them for good in most parts of the world.
I first thought the 670 was built in the 10th week,  but then upon noticing it's serial # is 6 digits rather then 7 as the newer saws have.....I figured it should then be the 1st week with a 0 to space the unit # digits for room if the unit count goes over a thousand for that week.
But then having said that the companies probably never had a 1000 units per week production until  later on in 1990 anyways.
I could be wrong, what do you think?

Right - the "unit number" was increased from 4 to 5 digits much later than this though, actually at the same time as the "year number" went from just one to two digits - some time around week 17-20 (don't know the exact week yet) 1999.
The week always has been two digits, since the easily decodable system appeared in the early 1980s, and still is.

[HolmenTree]

Thanks Niko, you sure know your #'s well.

jwilly, you have a real nice collection there.
A few years back I found this 1993 272XP that had never cut a stick of wood. The owner only started it up for a few minutes every spring to keep it loosened up. I paid $300 for it.
I've only put 4 tanks through it so far and did an upgrade with the HD air filter. Not sure what I want to do with it yet, have only cut hardwood with it to keep it clean.


  

 

[jwilly3879]

Mine 272xp isn't that pretty but overall it has been a great saw. It is sitting on the shelf right now waiting for some maintenance work, new crank seals and a carb rebuild.

The 268xp is really clean, the only thing broken on the body work is the back of the recoil, all the plastic louvers are gone. I'm anxious to see what it needs.

Today I was cutting pine with the 372 and the 670 and there is really no difference in speed, amazing for a 25 year old saw.

[sablatnic]

I will have to go and look in the shed. I believe I have a couple of boxes with the carcases of a Husqv 162 and a 272. Should be possible to make something of them!

[HolmenTree]

sablatnic, the Husqvarna 162 is a great saw. When I bought my 3rd Jonsered 621 in 1976 I saw the newly introduced 162 at the dealer later on and wished I never bought the 621.
Husqvarna built those saws right from the start way back then and still close to the same basic design today.

[sablatnic]

I like it too. Pleasant saw to run, an easy to work on.

It isn't too bad. Need new crankshaft seals and a carb. kit, and a cleaning. And new piston rings, if I can find them somewhere. Guess it has the narrow rings.

[HolmenTree]

Well I decided what to do with my "brand new" 1993 Husqvarna 272XP.....it's going to replace my near worn out 2006 372XP.

I put the 272 to some wood this afternoon first time in a year and got reminded how great of a saw it is.

[SawTroll]

Well I decided what to do with my "brand new" 1993 Husqvarna 272XP.....it's going to replace my near worn out 2006 372XP.

I put the 272 to some wood this afternoon first time in a year and got reminded how great of a saw it is.

At least it has an outboard clutch, so it likely handles a bit better than the 372. Apart from that, I believe the 372 is a bit better on most accounts.

[HolmenTree]

Well I decided what to do with my "brand new" 1993 Husqvarna 272XP.....it's going to replace my near worn out 2006 372XP.

I put the 272 to some wood this afternoon first time in a year and got reminded how great of a saw it is.

At least it has an outboard clutch, so it likely handles a bit better than the 372. Apart from that, I believe the 372 is a bit better on most accounts.

Well Niko I've been pondering on buying another 372XP for my tree service or rebuilding the one I own.
But I have to explain my stable of saws:  338XPT-14", 346XP NE-16", 562XP-18", 372XP-24", 395XP-32".

I decided seeing the 372 is bulkier in size then my 272, I'm going to replace the 372-24" with the 272-20" and a new 390XP-24"as a tag team.  I will then have 2 nice power upgrade saws to fill the spot between the 562XP-18" and the 395XP-32".

Sure the 372 has air injection and spring antivbe. Air injection tends to draw in water vapor and snow to the air box housing and some pro operators like the firmness and precision feel and control of the old firm rubber mount. Good example is probably why the new Stihl MS461 stuck with the rubber mounts.
Not to mention how easy it is to set the 272 carb when the saw is idling. Yes the 272 handles better too and power is right up there with the 372 with good torque not having to scream at WOT all day. Plus with a 20" b/c the 272 will have excellent throttle response.

Here's a pic comparing my 272 and 562, according to the tape measure the 562 is a bit longer.
Last pic is how I got my 272 on a diet and is lighter then my 372. Notice the heavy lead weight I removed from the brake lever, plus the heavy dogs. The HD filter saved an ounce or two also.


 


 

[SawTroll]

Yes, there is no doubt that the 272xp is a neat "package", and the 560 etc powerhead is long, at least partly as a result of the slanted top end. 

However, the 372xp should beat the 272xp by a bit in performance, as the cylinder is a quad transfer design with long transfers, vs. the traditional two transfers of the short kind,

[HolmenTree]

Yes, there is no doubt that the 272xp is a neat "package", and the 560 etc powerhead is long, at least partly as a result of the slanted top end. 

However, the 372xp should beat the 272xp by a bit in performance, as the cylinder is a quad transfer design with long transfers, vs. the traditional two transfers of the short kind,

yes good points Niko. But I believe Simon Bertrand has the formula to stroke and open up the porting of a 272 which is much more favorable then the 372.

[NITRO313jh]

I Wish I could Find Some of those older saws. But all I can Find are Junk or they want 500$ for them . 625II  630 266 272 . would not matter to me . Still looking  :D One will show up some day soon Enjoying Forestry Form Regards JEFF

[jwilly3879]

Try craigslist Vermont, there is a 670 there.