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Re: Snowshoes?
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2015, 06:12:33 AM »
I use Fabres as well, but with ash frames and composite web area. I find aluminum cracks and breaks too easy, ash frames last forever. The one thing though is crusty snow chews up nylon bindings. ;D However, I have never busted the shoes and have used them for many winters. Have gone through 3 sets of nylon straps though. ;)

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2015, 10:22:00 AM »
Thank you guys for your help.  What patterns do you find most useful in the woods?  Have any of you tried the GV wooden snowshoes?

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Re: Snowshoes?
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2015, 11:50:51 AM »
10x56 Alaskans are a very popular shoe, short of rabbit hunting in willow brush do fine for most other wooded  hikes.
If your a smaller person, 9 or 10 x46 is a good choice.

I and a lot of others prefer shoes that have a tail. They track/balance better than the bear paws in deep fluff.

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« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2015, 09:57:09 PM »
Beaver trapping is hard on shoes, i have gone to surplus army ones, and on my second pair in 10 years, if i doing much snowshoeing, otherwise i have a pair of wooden bear paw that travel better on my snow-sled. I have broken more than my share of snow shoes trapping beaver. If you go wooden go with thicker bows, there a few different snowshoe makers here in Maine, that can make them with heavier wood for you, stay away from leather, as it going to get wet and then be loose. realize if your trapping beaver, and packing them back out the extra weight. Get bindings that you can twist your feet out of easily, if you trap beaver enough your going to go through the ice, and your going to need to get them off your feet in a hurry. There is no 1 best pair for the whole season and different snow conditions, and terrain one stop you may be able to walk right up the ice some times without snowshoes, the next you go down through a fir thicket, and across a alder swamp.  The best ones you drive the snow-sled to cut the holes in the ice with a chainsaw and have enough of a trail to pull a dogsled along.
 
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« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2015, 09:50:08 AM »
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I like traditional wooden snowshoes but for daily work in the boreal forest they would not last (I am a swelt 250 lbs + on snow shoes). I use the surplus snowshoes and for me they last just like a Timex watch (takes a licking and keeps on ticking) and I never go snowshoeing without a pair of cross country ski poles. The bindings are a new style they work great how long they last only time will tell
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Re: Snowshoes?
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2015, 10:22:35 AM »
I've used Michigans and Bear Paws and prefer the Michigan style.  I've got a couple pair of the military surplus ones and they're my favorite.  I'd rather see them hanging on the wall in the garage than attached to my feet.  I prefer the rubber bindings.  They're easier to get on and off for me anyway.  I used to have a pattern around somewhere to cut them out of inner tubes.
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« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2015, 01:35:33 PM »
Where I go in the woods, there are too many small sticks that would go thru those military ones or anything but a no-holes fabric deck. More than once I've been upside down or wallowing around in the snow cursing at small trees/branches that had stuck thru a hole and wouldn't come out.

Unfortunately, I can't find another pair of the Fabers I have.
Got some used 'Optima' ones from fleabay… we'll see how those are.
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Re: Snowshoes?
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2015, 02:30:05 PM »
Yeah, mines not web like you would think with cord or gut, it's hard plastic with cleats on the bottoms for crust. But there are a few round holes bunched into it. The odd stick will grab a hole now and then, but most of the time there is enough snow when I'm shoeing that I usually don't get snagged. Also my land hasn't a lot of windfalls and snags because I have thinned the ground out the last few years with the trash all rotted into the ground by now.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2015, 03:19:22 PM »
I have a pair of bear-paw type which work OK but I generally prefer my cross country skis.  On the rare years we get enough snow to bother with either.

That's just to get around in the woods and logging roads; I don't try to do any work in the woods in the snow.
 
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« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2015, 06:35:48 PM »
the surplus ones i use have cable same as in the picture, they hold up well to the snags, thinking about most of the wooden shoes i have broken it been the tail that breaks stepping over a log you don't see in the snow, with just the tail supported, they break at the mortise and tendon on the back bar. Most of the time when i am using them it is to trap beaver, and in a place i can't get my snow sled through,- fir or alder thickets, there is always a bunch of cut down trees around these flowages. Occasionally i had to use them to break a trail for the snow sled as well. Or to shovel snow away from the ice to set or tend beaver traps. I don't tend to use them just to go for a walk, or in open area's or good trails where i can run a snow sled, if i was i would look at some of the long narrow pickerel type.
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« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2015, 07:02:31 PM »
I use mine mostly on trails or places I thinned out, which is almost the same because you create corridors more or less. But they do brush up in places. Going tomorrow on mine to do some more pruning while everything freezes up for a spell. Not suppose to get above freezing here tomorrow.

Do you trap the problem beavers BHC? That's about all that get trapped here now. Fur isn't worth much.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2015, 07:17:30 PM »
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Exactly as you say except I am flagging road line, cut blocks or no cut areas, just have to power on through no deviating from the line being run. The surplus ones are for work only if I am walking trails or in open country I prefer the longer narrow ones.
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Been there done that turned the air several shades of blue rolling around in the snow, that was until I started to use cross country ski poles. Tumbles in the snow are past history I will not snowshoe without them ever again.
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« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2015, 09:15:15 PM »
swamp donkey I trap problem beavers, and others depending on where they are, and how close i am going to them, i run a set of hunting camps for bear and deer in the fall, so i depend on a lot of company rds even if the company  not using them, so try to keep the beaver numbers as low as i can, in nov i trap coyotes for the state, and then in Dec i trap marten and fisher, if i can off a snowsled, and will target all the beaver that i go near. 2 years ago i flew over in a plane and marked 95 houses with a GPS withen a 20 mile of my house, if the price had stayed up i would have done well, they are ave $20 that's ok if it open water out of a truck= less work  but you would have to pick your time late winter when they take bait good and ice is not building for winter trapping/ under ice to pay, compare what you can make cutting pulp to what your going to make trapping beaver, and i cut pulp last 2 winters. I do know 4 or 5 guys who are catching 200+ beaver each and every year, and a couple of them pushing 500 every year, for the fur market there is no lack of beaver here in Maine. I bet if it was figured out there would be millions of dollars lost in roads and flooded/killed timber here every year.
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« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2015, 09:24:00 PM »
Al, my chainsaw would be jealous and depressed if I took some ski poles  :D
Had a stick stuck so bad today that I had to take the snowshoe off to disentangle everything.

BHC, ya beavers have wrecked a bunch of trees on my land but now they have eaten themselves out of a spot and moved on. No hardwood left within a couple hundred feet radius of their huts. About 20 acres of cedar flooded.
Sounds like you stay busy  8)
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« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2015, 06:04:53 AM »
I bet if it was figured out there would be millions of dollars lost in roads and flooded/killed timber here every year.

I hear ya. I thin small trees with a brush saw when there's no snow and them beaver's flood out a lot of 'silviculture' roads for sure. On dad's farm, I took the GPS in the winter time on snow shoes and measured 25 acres of flooded land the beavers had dammed up. That was on a 450 acre block of land. Those areas were nice cedar stands one time. At 50-60 cord an acre, that's big loss. Of course the timber had been cut before hand. But old beaver ponds, even if the beavers leave and the dam breaks, take a long time to heal up and grow trees again.  And they (beaver) don't only cut aspen and hardwood, but planted spruce trees make dam building material even if they aren't good eat'n. ::)

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« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2015, 06:14:12 PM »
I think I may be the oldest fart posting  Here. I started in 1962 when i went to work for the NYS Conservation department here in NY
We first were issued WWII surplus bear paw shoes with rawhide webs and leather bindings.
Flat profile and caught in deep snow when marking trees for thinning as we were looking up all the time.
I was only 24 then so falling wasn't a big deal.
A couple of years later we graduated to shoes made by Floyd Westover in Gloversville NY in Michigan pattern with neoprene webbing and neoprene bindings.
What a difference.
I wish I had a nickel for every mile i have logged on these tennis rackets.
I have used them since, 3 pairs, but haven't been on a pair in about 9 yrs since retiring from consulting forestry.
My newest pair rest in my shop on a nail as i think I posted before, CRS setting in.
IMO style and manufacture is likened to the Chevy/GMC/ Ford/ ram/ tundra debate.
Glad the snow is gone here.
 


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Re: Snowshoes?
« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2015, 10:12:14 PM »
I still have a pair of the Neoprene Snowshoes like yours. Did a lot of Snowshoe Rabbit hunting when I lived up there. Started out with a borrowed pair of Bear Paws then bought a pair like yours. They sure were easier to walk in. Haven't had to use them since I moved out of the Great White North  :D
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