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Re: I bought a shaper now what
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2016, 09:36:23 PM »
That would be Ballew Saw and Tool.  They do carry the full Amana line along with Freeborn, and LRH $$$$.
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Re: I bought a shaper now what
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2016, 10:58:41 PM »
Thanks Jim and Larry. It would be good to check them out. I like to find new places to go look around.

Ozarkgem, off the subject bit I forgot to show you the shingle attachment while you were here. If you are back this way come by and I will get it out for you to look at.
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Re: I bought a shaper now what
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2016, 06:22:59 AM »
Thanks Jim and Larry. It would be good to check them out. I like to find new places to go look around.

Ozarkgem, off the subject bit I forgot to show you the shingle attachment while you were here. If you are back this way come by and I will get it out for you to look at.
That will be good. Things were a little busy that day. I want to stop a Trumans also. I will give you a call.
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Re: I bought a shaper now what
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2016, 07:12:52 AM »
That would be Ballew Saw and Tool.  They do carry the full Amana line along with Freeborn, and LRH $$$$.

I have been buying from Ballew for must be 25 years, good company. Holbrens is another one I have good service from, have an order in right now.

Amana cutters are an awesome deal. I have been buying their insert cutters, and they are all perfect at a very reasonable price.

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Re: I bought a shaper now what
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2016, 06:35:18 PM »
Don't let spindle size be your only consideration when trying to decide how big of cutter you can spin safely. You also need to consider how rigid your spindle is. I have two shapers that take interchangeable spindles. They both have a 3/4" and a 1" spindle I can swap between. But I wouldn't consider spinning an 8" cutter on either one, even with the 1" spindle installed. I have a powermatic that has a solid 1" spindle that I might spin larger cutters on from time to time, but even the powermatic isnt very heavy built. The Oliver is the only shaper I would consistently spin cutters like this on. And if someone wanted to stack multiple cutters like this, they would likely need a shaper that's more robust than my Oliver. I believe Larry has one that would handle it.


 
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Re: I bought a shaper now what
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2016, 06:57:44 PM »
These guys will spin cutterheads in excess of 12 inches in diameter.

  

  

 
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« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2016, 08:05:02 PM »
Now that's a scary machine.  Nice touch with the bandage on the thumb... ;)
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« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2016, 08:20:31 PM »
I assume the slowest speed on those shapers is around 3500 or so. Rpm is another consideration when picking cutterhead size. The larger diameter, the slower the rpm. Most shapers are between 7,000 and 10,000 rpm.
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Re: I bought a shaper now what
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2016, 09:24:09 PM »
Good info. I guess I thought I could slap on anything that would fit and running it. It is good to have such knowledge at hand. Thanks!
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Re: I bought a shaper now what
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2016, 08:00:03 AM »
These guys will spin cutterheads in excess of 12 inches in diameter.

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Nice machine.

 I have been thinking I need one with the programmable hood to help with my eyes getting old, but by the time you get it optioned out with everything I want I may as well look at Martins, and then they cost too much. If I get a job that will pay for one though, I'll have one.

 The Uni. I have is as big as I would ever need, will swing a 14" cutter with a spindle support, but I would like to have tilt as I have become known for not being afraid of round work and tilt would help. I also want a tenoning table as I do quite a few doors, but ya, they just cost too much for now.

Of course, if I could afford every tool I want I could retire.....

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Re: I bought a shaper now what
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2016, 08:20:48 AM »

These guys will spin cutterheads in excess of 12 inches in diameter.

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Nice machine.



Of course, if I could afford every tool I want I could retire.....
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Re: I bought a shaper now what
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2016, 05:59:53 PM »
 

  

 

Got the cutters and put them on. It works smooth. Didn't bog at all. I did this in one pass for each side.

Total cost. $27 for the shaper and $66 for the cutters spacers and a bearing that I didnt end up using for this. Grand total $93.

Sweet success  8)
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« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2016, 06:28:09 PM »
NICE! 8)

Never thought about it, I guess you can have more than one tongue/groove set.
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« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2016, 07:52:32 PM »
I'd definitely call that a win.
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Re: I bought a shaper now what
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2016, 08:18:57 PM »
That shaper book is still looking for an address to send it to !
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« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2016, 08:33:44 PM »
50 years ago I worked in a shop that had a bunch of small shapers.  Different cutter on each one for small round overs and such.  Never had to stop to change cutters.  When you find more $27 shapers.....
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« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2016, 09:27:50 PM »
The philosophy I subscribe to.. 
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« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2016, 09:42:37 PM »
We missed out on a big bandsaw and big rigid lathe that only brought $60 each. I was running out of spare cash. I am also needing to rearrange the shop. I am thinking of the best placement of each piece and future tools. A longer beded  jointer and a good table saw. The saw I want is co ing up in an auction soon.
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Re: I bought a shaper now what
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2016, 01:04:21 AM »
What you need now is some mobil bases.

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« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2016, 08:48:52 AM »
What you need now is some mobil bases.


You bet! a base that moves when I want but doesn't move when I don't. I think I could buy out the caster section of most stores and not have enough. things like old tire machines and other heave stuff that I don't use often that could be nicely rolled out of the way.
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