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Re: Best Price on Anchorseal
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2017, 02:12:50 AM »
Doing it in the woods sounds like good advice, but the newspaper might get pulled off  ::).   That's an interesting amendment to the paint suggestion, however.

I have asked UC for a direct shipped price on a drum.  I will also ask them for written advice on whether it is freeze proof.  Since it is water-based, freezing certainly seems like a concerning possibility.  In another thread someone said something about adding antifreeze. Again, I will ask UC.

Getting a 55 gallon drum inside a heated building at our farm will be a pain.   At this point it would be the house alone. There is a basement but the steps are over 200 years old and a nasty hand cart negotiation.   We had a -5F night back in 2015.  I hear loud Canadian accented laughing filtering down from Maple leaf land.  Yeah, yeah, ok....

I have lots of junk paint around so I might just try that method with a log or 2 and see how it compares, with the same species & diameter of wood, cut at the same time as one I coat with anchorseal.   In another thread, someone mentioned using roofing paint, but they also mentioned that it was hard on bandsaw blades.

I think mobil chemical is still headquartered near here. I sold a house to the president many years ago, will have to ask.  Unless it's manufactured locally, the shipping cost is killer going from one Conner to another. Thank you Siri, that's supposed to be confident, continent.

There is a lot to consider here on what I thought was a very simple subject.

I'll throw in a family style chicken dinner discount coupon for my friend from Midlothian (and others) when he picks his up, if I get this going.  Thanks for the dialog, we will get this one figured out.

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Re: Best Price on Anchorseal
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2017, 07:44:19 AM »
I have lots of junk paint around so I might just try that method with a log or 2 and see how it compares, with the same species & diameter of wood, cut at the same time as one I coat with anchorseal.   

It does not work well compared to anchorseal.  Not even close. 
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Re: Best Price on Anchorseal
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2017, 09:31:48 PM »
I use W.R. Meadows 1300 water based wax emulsion in lieu of Anchorseal.  I can get 5 gallons for $38 and it brushes/rolls/sprays well.  It has worked very well for me.  It looks and behaves like Anchorseal.  I don't have to pay shipping because a local construction supply company stocks it. 
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Re: Best Price on Anchorseal
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2017, 01:04:32 AM »
I went looking for WR Meadows, in Richmond Virginia,  no luck locally, but a supplier told me about this one:

http://www.kaufmanproducts.net/html/productsfr.html

Opinions?   Has anyone used Kaufman 446 ( available locally to us for $355 for 55 gals) ?  Or any other Kaufman product?  Comments on the comparative composition?  To their knowledge, no one has ever used their products for wood.

No one seems to carry Anchorseal around here.   There is an Anchorseal dealer in Remington, VA, so perhaps member NativeWolf knows of them & their pricing.

I just got drum pricing from UC Coatings, direct from the mfr.

For "Classic" Anchorseal, clear with antifreeze added: $363+ frt ($136 to us, we have forks for unloading);
For "Hybrid" Anchorseal2, clear, with antifreeze added: $321.75+same frt

 The antifreeze not withstanding, they do not recommend letting it freeze.  I found that a bit confusing. What does antifreeze do in this case?

They have a warehouse about 200 miles away, near enough to another vendor we deal with (really close to FF mbr Don P, too), so we could pick it up.

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« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2017, 01:33:08 AM »
Its water based.  When it freezes the waxes and emulsifiers will separate and drop out of suspension.
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« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2017, 07:10:37 AM »
I had a pail of left over rubberized roof coating that we used on a horse trailer, I think it's called Henry's or something like that, around $65 / 5 gallons at the big box store.  Anyway, I have used it on pecan and a couple of other logs I don't see often and I have been quite happy with the results.  I do have some on a big red oak that escaped to the back of a pile, that has been on there for 2 1/2 years now and it still looks good. 
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« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2017, 08:43:27 AM »
The Woodcraft store in Richmond carries Anchorseal, but nothing bigger than gallons.  For me it's been better for both price and convenience to buy direct from UCC coatings. 

I'm betting that someone here carries the WR Meadows product, but it doesn't show up on the radar.  I'm going to ask around.  I'll let you know if I find a local source.
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Re: Best Price on Anchorseal
« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2017, 08:44:46 AM »
Southside,

   Is your coating clear or opaque? I use clear anchorseal so I can still see the end grain/checking to help me determine how to open and cut my logs. I'll admit it partially obscures some of the end but the major features can still be seen.
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« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2017, 09:06:28 AM »
One thing that hasn't been mentioned about Anchorseal that makes it very convenient:  Since it's a wax emulsion product, it doesn't dry up in a sprayer tip when left for a long time.  You don't really need to clean the equipment.  I also keep a 4" brush suspended in a coffee can with water in it.  Cut a small x in the plastic lid and slip the handle through.  This allows the brush bristles to be suspended in the water.  Shake it out and go to work when needed.  Cleaning up brushes or sprayers after every use would be problematic to me.  Sometimes the sprayer will sit for a month or two between uses and it doesn't clog.
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Re: Best Price on Anchorseal
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2017, 01:07:22 PM »
btullah,

   Sounds similar to what I do. I took a 1 gallon milk jug and cut out a section opposite the handle leaving the neck on. I keep a 4" paintbrush in there and if I do happen to pour up too much anchorseal in the jug I can still pour it back in the 5 gallon jug using the neck as a funnel when I am done sealing logs. Works fine for me.
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« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2017, 09:11:15 PM »
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It's opaque, pretty much white.  I put it on with a roller and I can still see all the end grain. I will get a picture of that oak log and some sawn pecan that has been drying for a while now so those who use the Anchorseal can compare it to what you see, I have never used the stuff so I can't compare it. 
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« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2017, 09:31:42 PM »
I'm betting that someone here carries the WR Meadows product, but it doesn't show up on the radar.  I'm going to ask around.  I'll let you know if I find a local source.

A.H. Harris Inc. in Richmond sells WR Meadows products.  If 1300 isn't in-stock they probably have it at one of their other stores and can transfer it in.

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« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2017, 09:54:39 PM »
I belong to a woodturning club and each August we raise money by selling about 50 turning blanks.  This year one of our members took a class with Glen Lucas (Irish Woodturner) and Glen uses Concrete Bonding Additive.  It is only about $13 / gallon but is very thin.  We coated everything this year with Concrete Bonding additive and people seemed happy.

Personally, I prefer Anchor Seal, but at about half the cost you might want to check on the bonding additive.  I bought it a one of the box stores and it was easy to apply.


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« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2017, 10:13:16 PM »
I spent a few days trying to get the Wr Meadows or other wax based emulsions, with no luck.  They did not sell them in Atlanta.  Several companies make a water based wax emulsion for curing concrete.  What I did find would be as expensive as anchor seal with shipping.  It would be nice to get a 55 gallon drum between a few people and split it up.  I know that is what a lot of woodworking clubs do.
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Re: Best Price on Anchorseal
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2017, 05:11:05 PM »
Its water based.  When it freezes the waxes and emulsifiers will separate and drop out of suspension.
I asked UC coatings explicitly if Anchorseal is freeze proof, and the rep said somewhat confusingly but in writing, we do put antifreeze in it, but we don't recommend leaving it outside to freeze.

I think maybe they outsourced that question & answer to my member of Congress.   Or maybe she had just read the opening scene from Romeo and Juliet.

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« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2017, 06:25:02 PM »
The quickest way to make a million dollars with a sawmill is to start with two million.


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Re: Best Price on Anchorseal
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2017, 06:55:01 PM »
Look into a drum heater. It's a band strap the goes around the drum then
you just plug it in...

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« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2017, 07:15:40 PM »
The quickest way to make a million dollars with a sawmill is to start with two million.


Love that quote in your signature!   :D  :):D  :):D :D

Yeah well I'm only half joking (or I'm half way there depending how you look at it). I'm covering a half mill $ mortgage with a sawmill, and to get to where I want to go I need another $250k or so in equipment (2nd hand) I'm one of the best mill managers in the business, but other then that ability and not being afraid of work I've got nothing behind me asset wise: without the $ you cant buy the equipment and without the equipment you can't make the $. So we do it all on a shoestring and I work hard instead of smart, and we all know whoever said hard work wont kill you wasnt in this line of work.
 
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« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2017, 07:29:21 PM »
The two gallon size is easy to carry and half the price of a whoopsie when it tips over. I can throw it in the truck for fresh cut when I cant get the logs that day. The clear also works well for face grain on slabs when you want to save a piece with some nice knots.  Can never put too much on, and always bring inside if near 30 degrees.
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« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2017, 06:08:30 AM »
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I surely know what you're talking about...it never ends.  :o

I'm walking the same wire....fortunately, I have another unrelated business that can sustain me while I'm "working the problem".

Continually I'm reminded of the joy/satisfaction of doing something I like. There ARE a lot of people making a good living at it--just have to find the proper course and walk-the-walk.

I'm curious as to your current challenges and equipment needs. It helps to learn from others' struggles and successes. I'll PM you.



The quickest way to make a million dollars with a sawmill is to start with two million.


Love that quote in your signature!   :D  :):D  :):D :D

Yeah well I'm only half joking (or I'm half way there depending how you look at it). I'm covering a half mill $ mortgage with a sawmill, and to get to where I want to go I need another $250k or so in equipment (2nd hand) I'm one of the best mill managers in the business, but other then that ability and not being afraid of work I've got nothing behind me asset wise: without the $ you cant buy the equipment and without the equipment you can't make the $. So we do it all on a shoestring and I work hard instead of smart, and we all know whoever said hard work wont kill you wasnt in this line of work.
 
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