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Re: small diameter logging with stroke delimber harvester
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2017, 07:24:54 PM »
That eucalyptis is pretty small and smooth compared to what I would have. The red pine around here has more and bigger limbs [1st thinning maybe up to 2 inches in dia.] Preferably, I would like something to handle diameters up to 10 inches. I realize the stroke harvesters are slower, but I like the smaller investment to start out and see how big the need is to start out.
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Re: small diameter logging with stroke delimber harvester
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2017, 08:39:04 AM »
I am also looking for a small roller head harvester for my Bobcat E80
I am leaning towards the Hahn since it is made in Minnesota.
so 75k + controls in the cab + shipping = $$,$$$
still considering it.

but then with a stroke i could count the number of strokes and judge how long the log is.

so far these are the heads i have found

the prices i list are NOT in concrete
 logmax     928a =  too big
 hahn     hsg-140 = have not been made in a few years, they have the parts, Made in MN, $75,000 and up
 hakmet     275R
 hakmet     375R
 hakmet     Arbro 400 = $45,000 and up
 hakmet     Arbro 1000 = $64,000 and up
 Naarva      S23c = $26,000 and up
 Naarva      S250
 Naarva      S250r
 kesla     16RH
 kesla     20SH-II
 ponsse     H5 = need 50 gpm, 100 hp


DDW, Did you ever pursue any of these?
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Re: small diameter logging with stroke delimber harvester
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2017, 02:31:57 PM »
on March 2017, looked at the Arbro 1000. shipped from Canada, computer + joystick + wiring + rotator + shipping = $69,000
I would have to supply the mounting plate and extra hydraulic lines.

It looks like my E80 can use either the 400 or 1000. although the 1000 is a little on the big size
Now looking at the 400 with 16 inch bar= about $46,500 plus freight for the same setup. a savings of about $23,000. i can do a lot with the 23k

looking to use www.agdirect.com for the financing, have used it in the past with no problems.

for removing small trees and brush from the fence line i thought of using something like this
http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,54852.0/all.html
the fence line is 28,000 feet plus cross fencing.
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Re: small diameter logging with stroke delimber harvester
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2017, 02:51:17 PM »
would LOVE to get the  Hahn hsg-140 since is it made in the USA. but since it has not been made in a few years and is on the upper limits of the E80.......

kesla, was told that there was no service in USA
hakmet 275R, too big
Naarva, max cut 12 inch, too small
AFM     AFM 35, too big
Nisula  425C,  no service in USA
ponsse H5, too big
Farmi = Naarva
logmax 928a, too big


hakmet 275R, too much $$ for me
hakmet 375R, too much $$ for me
hakmet Arbro 1000, 22 inch max cut, at the upper limits for the E80
hakmet Arbro 400,  16 inch max cut

plan to use the harvester for most of the work. then a chainsaw for the bigger felling and the harvester for the delimbing
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Re: small diameter logging with stroke delimber harvester
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2017, 08:21:37 PM »
There's a new head out by eco forest, your dealer would be Crostrek/Pioneer Machinery. There was a local guy that had a small dangle on mini Kubota that I think was a Kesla.
There's a dealer here in the states Woodland Equipment, Inc. I've never dealt with them but I'm sure someone is back there can chime in.

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« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2017, 09:34:46 PM »
There's a new head out by eco forest, your dealer would be Crostrek/Pioneer Machinery. There was a local guy that had a small dangle on mini Kubota that I think was a Kesla.
There's a dealer here in the states Woodland Equipment, Inc. I've never dealt with them but I'm sure someone is back there can chime in.
can you please add a link?
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Re: small diameter logging with stroke delimber harvester
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2017, 11:26:23 PM »
Yeah, I talked to Hahn last summer about a used morbark wolverine with their head on it. He said they "should be able" to supply parts for them still. There's been a couple used machines out there with the head still, but kinda scares me being out of production. I'm still dreamin'. Just had another guy the other day want a 5 acre CRP white pine stand thinned. [25 yrs old]. There's gotta be a way to do those jobs profitably.
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Re: small diameter logging with stroke delimber harvester
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2017, 08:11:19 AM »
Years ago there was a small tracked machine called a Mackeral,(or similar)that I thought would be handy for doing small pine.

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Re: small diameter logging with stroke delimber harvester
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2017, 11:28:19 AM »
I know of an Arbro 400 sitting at a dealer in Wisconsin that you could buy for 15 k not including mounting on your machine. Northern Clearing bought it new on a new kubota track excavator but took it off due to it being too slow I think. It probably has less than 100 hours on it and the dealer is hungry to sell. I looked at it last summer thinking to mount it on an excavator I have.  it just looked like it was built so light I couldn't justify it in my mind. I mean the rotator hangs from a 1 Inch pin and the iron in it just seemed so light. Keep in mind though that my main equipment is a timbco, stroke delimber, 648 skidder so maybe I was expecting too much in terms of how heavy it should be.

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Re: small diameter logging with stroke delimber harvester
« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2017, 11:34:17 AM »
One more thing. My neighbor used to have the Hahn head on an excavator. I watched it working and I think there's good reason they don't make them anymore. Unbelievable slow. I think these small stroke heads work better.

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« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2017, 12:21:08 PM »
Timbco, any chance you'd give up the name of the dealer? I'd like to check it out
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Re: small diameter logging with stroke delimber harvester
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2017, 12:38:42 PM »
Just to throw this out there with a fixed processor head you really need a feller buncher boom for the reach as well as being able to tuck the head in to turn the machine in tight areas for thinning.

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« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2017, 03:32:57 PM »
Lulich equipment- Mason Wisconsin phone 7156317040 - The head is basically new with a little paint wore off a bit. It sits in their yard on a steel pallet. They have the computer and joystick handles in the shop. I know that you could get it for 15k because that's what I offered them if I decided to go that route. I guess I'll pass. Good luck!

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« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2018, 01:16:36 PM »
well, starting the paperwork for the Arbro 400, putting it on the E80. getting it shipped from the California dealer.
it will be about a month till i get it.
using Agdirect.com for the financing, 5.14% fixed for 4 years.

also got a Turbosaw for the smaller excavator. just the standard blade.
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« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2018, 06:11:04 PM »
Keep us posted DDW!
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« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2018, 07:05:35 PM »
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Re: small diameter logging with stroke delimber harvester
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2018, 07:32:13 AM »
We have a Patu head on a skidder platform. 2 foot stroke delimber with computer sets in the cab.  We used it for a while in ERC.  Worked great.  Also used it in some pine. Worked great.  The seal at the bottom of the mast is leaking and is a little tedious to change so it sets.  It is for sale.
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« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2018, 12:32:15 PM »
Hakmet in California = $46,500 plus shipping

Agdirect = 30% down for logging equipment, 5 year max

Called Lulich equipment 715-631-7040. they have sold the Arbro 400 head.
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Re: small diameter logging with stroke delimber harvester
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2018, 02:44:55 PM »
just hooked up the Turbosaw to the Bobcat 331 excavator
http://www.cleartrees.com/excavator-brush-cutters.html
for 6 inch and less it works great. anything over 6 inches takes time but i have done 13 inch cedar.

rotating the blade angel from Horizontal to Vertical is done by removing 4 bolts, then manually turning the saw head, then re-install the 4 bolts.

i have had a bypass valve added to the return line on the excavator. this allows the fluid to split, sending some through the valve and some to flow around the valve. this also helps with the Brush hound flail mower. i do not have a RPM meter, but it sounds a little faster. the Bypass cost about $500

Conclusion:
if i was younger or more agile i would not have purchased the Turbosaw.
but i am happy i have it. especially since my 87 year old dad can use it.
will have to add a sheet of Lexan Polycarbonate in front of the windshield.
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