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Re: pulling a fith wheel camper with a 1/2 ton
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2017, 05:29:07 PM »
I tow a 7000# travel trailer with a RAM 1500 4x4 crew cab 5.7 hemi 8600# towing rating 6 speed transmission equalizing hitch. I get half the mpg towing as I would get not towing but loaded 8-9 opposed to 16-18. I have added heavy duty rear shocks and 6 ply tires, the 1500 Rams have coil springs, nice ride but they squat with much of a load. As for power it is not the slowest on the inclines, more HP is better, on the down hills in towing mode I use very little brake. Hope this info helps, personally I would not think about a 5th wheel with the RAM 1500...Sam 

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Re: pulling a fith wheel camper with a 1/2 ton
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2017, 06:27:34 PM »
  Something for anybody that tows, or hauls, anything to keep in mind, no matter what you do to beef up your truck it doesn't change what you can legally tow or haul, it's what the door jam sticker says that counts. When some idiot pulls out in front of you and gets hurt their lawyer will say if you weren't overloaded you could have avoided the wreck, you saying you modified the suspension or brakes will make it worse.
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Re: pulling a fith wheel camper with a 1/2 ton
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2017, 07:15:56 PM »
I pulled 8500lbs of pumps for years with a 1/2 ton truck.
I also had a heavy camper and a BIG dog along...
I'm not saying it was right but I had no problems.

 

 

 

 
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Re: pulling a fith wheel camper with a 1/2 ton
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2017, 07:02:31 PM »
Another option, Skip the 4x4 and look to the 3 liter diesel in the 1500 series

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Re: pulling a fith wheel camper with a 1/2 ton
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2017, 10:06:09 PM »
That is to bring up fuel economy ratings, definitely not for serious towing.
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Re: pulling a fith wheel camper with a 1/2 ton
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2017, 06:26:44 PM »
That is to bring up fuel economy ratings, definitely not for serious towing.

I wouldn't place a 1500 1/2 ton P.U. in the "serious" towing category,
FWIW, its reported the 3 liter diesel matches the 5.7 gasser in torque and gets better mileage.



 

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Re: pulling a fith wheel camper with a 1/2 ton
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2017, 06:38:35 PM »
I've talked to a few people that have that 3.0L diesel, it under preforms but they didn't purchase it for power just fuel economy.
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Re: pulling a fith wheel camper with a 1/2 ton
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2017, 08:14:00 PM »
I went the other extreme a few years ago.   I had the single axle F350 when I bought the toyhauler.  The toyhauler is the small one at 36' but gross weight is 16k.  I didn't feel comfortable at interstate speeds or going down large hills and mountains so I bought the F450.   I get 11mpg with the 6.7 diesel and 411 axle.  And, now I'm comfortable.    ;D

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Re: pulling a fith wheel camper with a 1/2 ton
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2017, 10:38:52 PM »
Atta boy!! :D Seriously, you are doing it right. That makes the journey so much safer and enjoyable.
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Re: pulling a fith wheel camper with a 1/2 ton
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2017, 09:04:40 AM »
  The F450 with it's tighter turning radius is about as good as it gets for towing. Now get a Titan Tank replacement fuel tank with over 60 gallons capacity and go.
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Re: pulling a fith wheel camper with a 1/2 ton
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2017, 09:25:42 AM »
next jump up is an RV TOTER usually an International sometimes a crew cab . Regestered as an RV gives a break on insurance and DOT regulations. But that's a far jump from a half ton pickup. My friends International Flatbed gets much better MPG than his F550.
We have a lot of good boys and girls in harms way
lets all support them and their familys.

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Re: pulling a fith wheel camper with a 1/2 ton
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2017, 10:35:02 AM »
Since 2015 Ford do not have a 7 lugs .
I have a f150 supercab 8 ft box with  HEAVY DUTY PAYLOAD PACKAGE. My 2016 F150 XLT has a 2603 pounds of Payload, 4800 pound on the rear axle. It can tow 10,700 pounds ( V8 5.0L 385 hp, 387 pounds of torq) the 3.5 ecoboost in 2017 is 375 hp but 470 pounds of torq a 10 speed transmission......but I still prefer my V8, a personal choice. I often pull a trailer weighting 6500 pounds and +- 1300 pounds in the truck, it pulls more than my previous 2000 F250, better handling and a lot softer ride.
On the Heavy Duty Payload F150, everything is special under the cab......thicker frame ( Ford did not any HDPP in 2015, they did not had the special frames) they do not use the 7 lugs because the truck is lighter. Torsion bars in the front is solid not hollow, bigger shocks, 9"75 in. HD differential, 3.73 gear. with electronic lock,thicker axle, special rims ( they call them HD)  LT tires that are 4 seasons (2535 pounds rated ),   with the V8, a transmission heater, To my knowledge Rams and Chevy do not do any Heavy Duty Payload.  When you pull you also need a good payload  ( I would not suggest pulling near the truck limits (10700 pounds ) . Most of the half ton will have a payload of 1500 to 1800 pounds.  With Ford you can have lot more payload.  Good luck with your decision. Roger
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