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Author Topic: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test  (Read 51282 times)

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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #320 on: October 30, 2017, 03:52:47 PM »
Today With the big dump of snow yesterday and falling into a deep freeze temps, I'm officially putting the MS261 and 550XP into hibernation.
Finished up a couple mundane jobs with the 261 a few days ago before winter set in, didn't even think to take a few pics, only just one now from the end of my driveway.
With the colder temps the 261 nicely reset it's self very quick, just seemed like a little burp and then it was back to business.
Got the heat on in the saw shop and the only calls I'm getting is for chain sales, sharpening  and some light repairs.
Life is good I can get used to this.
 

 
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #321 on: January 09, 2018, 05:11:39 PM »
Well I'm happy to revive this thread. Presently it's January 9th 2018 and about mid way into my tree service winter off season.
I got a call from a customer yesterday to remove a couple of tall spruce near his cottage, one was hit by lightning last fall.

Well todays high is -6F (-21C) with windchill it feels like -22F (-30C) with 70% humidity. I just got back last weekend from a 2 week vacation in Mexico and it was 83F (28C) everyday :o

So I got the 550XP and MS261CM prepped this morning outfitted with their winter preheater kits. My 550XP came with the rewind housing winter cover, the 261 didn't so I have no choice to run it without it.
Here's some pics. Gotta go pickup my kids from school, will report about the saws and job in a bit.
 

  

  

 
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #322 on: January 09, 2018, 08:39:32 PM »
From 83F a couple of days ago in Mexico, to -22 below F windchill and 70% humidity and knee deep snow out at my customers cottage!

My report on the 2 saws goes like this.
Each saw only burnt about a half tank each of Stihl MotoMix fuel between the 2 trees cut. The trees were felled limbed and bucked up into 12" rounds.
The saws haven't run for almost 3 months and they both started up with 3 or 4 pulls. But when they fired to life the AutoTune and MTronic processors had to deal with the new much colder freezing temps. The MS261 took about a minute to warm up and adjusted nicely. But the 550XP 's processor took alot longer to register.
The 550 would first have a bad bog off idle then as it warmed up would back fire a bit. But after it felled the first tree and blocked about 10 rounds it ran perfect and was ready to work all day.

The MS261CM ll warmed up from freezing cold with no hesitation, just smoothly picked up throttle speed as I gradually worked the throttle. By the time it got into it's 2nd round of wood it had a very high peaky WOT.
The 550 was alot more cold blooded even though it had the rewind housing preheater cover....but both saws performed very well (and the 261 didn't have a preheater winter cover on the rewind housing.)

As my pics show I had 2 spruce to fell and cut up with no cleanup.
The tall spruce on the left in the first pic was badly damaged by lightning and with heavy side limb weight it posed a threat falling on the cottage.

It took my BigShot slingshot to install the anchored guy line side rope. The smaller spruce was in the path of the rope when I fell the tree, so it had to be felled first.

Second last pic shows the lightening damage.
The last pic shows where the lightening grounded to the green steel fence and the arc burnt a couple patches of paint off.

Oops photo gallery is currently off line.
Will post now before it times out and will post pics later. >:(
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #323 on: January 10, 2018, 12:17:37 PM »
83 , sounds like you had a nice vacation.
-22 I wouldn't have gone back. LOL

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« Reply #324 on: January 10, 2018, 02:10:37 PM »
83 , sounds like you had a nice vacation.
-22 I wouldn't have gone back. LOL
Yep while my family and I were enjoying 83F it was in the -40 below with -50 below windchill range at home almost everyday.
I'll take the -22 below :D
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #325 on: January 10, 2018, 05:31:32 PM »
So from your professional opinion, what is your saw that you would buy and stick with or prefer over the other ?
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« Reply #326 on: January 10, 2018, 08:38:01 PM »
MS261CM ll hands down. :)
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« Reply #327 on: January 11, 2018, 08:43:04 AM »
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Re: Official MS261CM vs 550XP test
« Reply #328 on: January 11, 2018, 08:57:48 AM »
I want that one but owwy. It is pricey.

I was thinking MS250 but then after test driving it I like the 270 better. Not sure I can justify the cost for the 261.
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« Reply #329 on: January 11, 2018, 05:51:20 PM »


Oops photo gallery is currently off line.
Will post now before it times out and will post pics later. >:(
Is it just me locked out or is everybodies photo gallery currently off line?
Been over 2 days now and still can't post pics from the gallery.
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« Reply #330 on: January 11, 2018, 06:10:35 PM »
Jeff is moving the forum to a new server. I believe  he had to shut down the gallary for the move
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« Reply #331 on: January 11, 2018, 06:41:55 PM »
Jeff is moving the forum to a new server. I believe  he had to shut down the gallary for the move
Thanks ronwood.
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« Reply #332 on: January 12, 2018, 09:01:27 AM »
I want that one but owwy. It is pricey.

I was thinking MS250 but then after test driving it I like the 270 better. Not sure I can justify the cost for the 261.
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« Reply #333 on: January 12, 2018, 09:07:44 AM »
I need to run one for sure. I do love fuel injection.
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« Reply #334 on: January 12, 2018, 05:36:54 PM »
I need to run one for sure. I do love fuel injection.
Sorry fuel injection not currently available :D
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« Reply #335 on: January 12, 2018, 06:52:21 PM »
Now to try out this new photo gallery upgrade.
No videos but take my word for it on my saw test.
But pay attention to my pictures and how I safely felled a side limb  heavy tree with a 90 to lay guy line (side support rope).
 I use a 4 ft drywall T square to sight in my 90 degree to lay anchor point by setting one straight edge of the square in the face cut pointing to my anchor point. The other straight edge is pointing to where I want the tree to lay. Luckily I found a stump to anchor to at 90  but if you can't find one a vehicle etc. works just fine.
No matter how much side lean or side limb heavy the tree is opposite the guy line, the guy line will steer the tree to lay. Of course the swing will break the preset hingewood, but the tree will land exactly 90 to the anchor point.


As my pics show I had 2 spruce to fell and cut up with no cleanup.
The tall spruce on the left in the first pic was badly damaged by lightning and with heavy side limb weight it posed a threat falling on the cottage.

It took my BigShot slingshot to install the anchored guy line side rope. The smaller spruce was in the path of the rope when I was to fell the larger damaged tree, so it had to be felled first.
 What appears to be the trees leaning towards the anchor point is just an optical illusion from the angle I took the pictures from. The trees were actually standing verticle.

Second last pic shows the lightening damage.
The last pic shows where the lightening grounded to the green steel fence and the arc burnt a couple patches of paint off.


  

  

  

  

 
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« Reply #336 on: January 12, 2018, 06:54:54 PM »
Forgot to show the anchor point picture.
 

 
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« Reply #337 on: January 12, 2018, 10:19:13 PM »
I believe that tree at the moment the lightening hit it would not be standing, if it wasn't for the steel fence grounding it out.
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« Reply #338 on: January 14, 2018, 09:22:40 AM »
How cold was it the day you dropped those trees?  :D  10 degrees here ths morning and I'm debating should I take a quick ride and cut a pick up load of wood. And I've got saws with heated grips. Kind of shaming me into it, so going to fuel up the 2163WH and head out.

Really enjoy the pics of the tree jobs and your descriptions on how you are attacking the problems Willard. Thanks for sharing the details.  :)
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« Reply #339 on: January 14, 2018, 02:55:11 PM »
Thanks Spike60. Actually the week before that job temps were in the highs of -40 range(F and C equal at minus40). It only warmed up that day because it was clouded over and periods of snowfall hence the 70% humidity.
I started early in the morning never got anywhere near the afternoon high. So temps was around -20F that morning but humidity was still 70%.

 Reason I answered MS261CM hands down of my choice is  for the reason of my work application and how well the261 adjusts itself.
Doing stop and go arborist residential removals the 261 is not frustrating warming up and immediately goes to task making a few cuts.
The 550XP is a saw that performs the best when logging or cutting alot of firewood steady throughout the day "once" it gets warmed up.
I have a feeling the 261 has the latest MTronic technology with very quick adjustment processes.

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