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Bander... metal or plastic?
« on: July 15, 2017, 07:50:43 AM »
Would like to purchase a bander to make moving and loading lumber and slabs easier. What are your thoughts on metal vs plastic banding? The plastic seems like it would be nice for slabs that occasionally get burned or cut up with chain saw. Also less potential for staining lumber... thoughts?

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Re: Bander... metal or plastic?
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2017, 08:00:13 AM »
I use plastic but sometimes break the band when trying to get too tight.
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Re: Bander... metal or plastic?
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2017, 08:12:32 AM »
I used metal, but they will stain the oak, but for slabs they are great, but they dont burn very good.   They say some of the non metallic banding is pretty good stuff, 
only have a few chain saws I'm not suppose to use, but will at times, one dog Dolly, pretty good dog, just not sure what for yet,  working on getting the gardening back in order, and kinda thinking on maybe a small bbq bizz,  thinking about it,

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Re: Bander... metal or plastic?
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2017, 08:35:37 AM »
We use both at work.  The plastic is cheaper so we use it on everything but slabs. The slabs are sold to the charcoal plant so they get metal.
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Re: Bander... metal or plastic?
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2017, 08:42:07 AM »
There is a clear/yellow plastic for machines that I'm sure you wont brake.
stronger than steel.
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Re: Bander... metal or plastic?
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2017, 08:51:54 AM »
I use ¾ inch poly cord on slabs and 5/8 poly strapping on lumber. The only reason for the poly strapping is it’s cheaper. If you’re not doing a lot you could just use the Poly Cord. Got all of mine from Uline.
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Re: Bander... metal or plastic?
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2017, 09:13:36 AM »
I use this product from uline.com.
https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-3250/Polyester-Strapping/Uline-Polyester-Strapping-5-8-x-035-x-4200-Green

That roll of strapping is $101, the tensioner is $67, the seal crimper is $90, and the box of seals is $92. It is kind of expensive to get started but we use it for everything and only use 2 rolls a year. It stays tight and we do not break one very often. If we only made our bundles for a tractor loader or skid loader we probably wouldnt break any. If we do break one it will usually be on slabs that get one hooked on the door or something to break the band.

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Re: Bander... metal or plastic?
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2017, 10:14:10 AM »
My tools and crimps work equally well on either plastic or steel.  I use plastic 90% of the time.  Sometimes I will put three or even four bands on slabs just to make sure short pieces stay in the bundle.  Two bands on lumber.  I'm a small time hobby sawyer and I'm not slamming bundles around.

The charcoal plant only accepts slabs banded with steel.
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Re: Bander... metal or plastic?
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2017, 03:33:47 PM »
I use the plastic it works good for me and use the buckles .
I don't like metal seen it cut or break and know a guy who put his eye out when a metal band broke.
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Re: Bander... metal or plastic?
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2017, 03:44:01 PM »
You're using the buckles instead of the crimped style?  Do they hold up ok?  What size strapping?
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Re: Bander... metal or plastic?
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2017, 04:11:39 PM »
Here is a homemade holder for the Poly Cord .

 

 
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Re: Bander... metal or plastic?
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2017, 04:33:20 PM »
The buckles hold great and you can reuse them and pull them back tight if need be.
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Re: Bander... metal or plastic?
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2017, 05:59:23 PM »
I thought I was the only one using buckles.  Looks like a lot of bucklers around.
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Re: Bander... metal or plastic?
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2017, 08:23:18 PM »
I started off using that poly cord strapping with the buckles. it works ok but I have had some heavy bundles loosen off while hauling them. The neat thing about them is that you dont have to have a special tool to tighten them up on bundles. A 4' 2x6 with 2 saw cuts into it half way across at 6'' and 9'' from one end and you got yourself a tightener.

I built a box that looked like a planter box just as wide as the poly cord spool and a little longer and cut a hole through it for the spool to turn on and throw the buckles in the bottom. a poly cord for a handle and it is portable. I have just such a deal and half a big box of buckles I would let someone have. I probably will never go back.

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Re: Bander... metal or plastic?
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2017, 09:35:49 PM »
I use the 1/2 inch orange Kubinec strapping and buckles for lighter loads, but I don't like its stretchiness.  I tried it for over the load, but it would let packs get loose. 

I use the heavy duty 5/8" green embossed "lumberyard" banding anytime I'm carrying wood on the road.  The stuff is amazingly strong, and I've never had it break or pull apart, even under circumstances when I expected it to.  I figure its good enough for professional lumberyards, its good enough for me.

I used to use the 1/2 brown plastic crimp packing, and I've had it break before, and it will cut itself on sharp lumber edges, especially oak.   
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