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Re: Need firewood advice
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2017, 09:35:48 PM »
Thank you all for the advice. Appreciate it very much. Using the poplar/aspen as shoulder wood.... starts the year, ends the year.

I'll keep you posted.
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Re: Need firewood advice
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2017, 09:05:49 AM »
You know since you have the equipment, i would just cut my way through it picing out the poplar logs and getting rid of them.
yes its more work, but if you have the equipment i could be done.

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Re: Need firewood advice
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2017, 03:59:26 PM »
I'm a little confused here .I thought most if not all outside burners had a thermostatically  controlled force draft blower .If that's the case I would thing it doesn't make much difference what it burned .It would make sense poplar wouldn't last as long as oak though .Although trotting out into 15 below at 1 AM in the morning to restoke it wouldn't be very much fun .

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Re: Need firewood advice
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2017, 06:13:36 PM »
Al,I think I read,he's concerned about the burn time. Yes,it will burn the poplar,put out heat,but he concerned it won't last like oak or maple. He don't want the wife to be cold.  ;)
I burn dead standing cedar. Sometimes it's all limbed too.  ;D  I know that won't hold a fire like good hardwood. Won't be much for coals either.
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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2017, 08:47:25 PM »
The boiler will burn any wood, really, and while it is pretty forgiving, it should be pretty dry. My concern with all the poplar was exactly what thecfarm said. Don't want mumma to go out in the morning on those wicked cold mornings (when I am at work) to find the boiler about out even after stuffing it full.

I think I got a decent plan going forward. One things for sure though, I will be much more cognizant of separating poplar as I yard it out. I definitely had enough to sell a load, and even if not, it would be better to keep them separated for better control.
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Re: Need firewood advice
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2017, 03:22:36 PM »
I guess I am spoiled or old and lazy. Any more when cleaning up pastures. I only save hard wood the rest go to the brush piles and get burned. I burn 10 to 15 cord a year of locust and hedge and by the time I get that processed  I sure don't want to process any elm or cotton wood that will that another five more cord to do the same job as hard wood will. The last time I brushed some elm out thinking someone would take it for free it took two years to fine takers and some of it still went to the burn piles.

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« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2017, 03:52:31 PM »
Now on that elm first it's a chore to split,doesn't make the best fire .However it makes the best loading planks because it will nearly bend in two before it breaks .As it dries it gets lighter,oak never gets light .Finding an elm large enough to mill into planks might be a chore though .

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Re: Need firewood advice
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2017, 01:44:56 AM »
I have burned a lot of very dry and punky aspen in the fall and noticed one thing to look out for is if there is no other dense hardwood in the mix there will be no coals to restart the fire when you refill the OWB. Aspen does not leave many good coals when it burns.
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« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2017, 06:03:39 AM »
Nothing leaves a coal bed like oak ,even hickory falls a little short of that .On the other hand if I toss a gnarly chunk of oak in the last fill up at night it will start right off next morning .
The only poplar around here is cottonwood and tulip .They aren't burned much for firewood .Cut green they are like lifting concrete .2 months later about like balsa.

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« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2017, 08:23:18 AM »
 I burn whatever dies in my woods so quite a mix including poplar. I've learned to stack the poplar separate from the oak, locust, hickory, etc. Like Al said burning all poplar the stove won't always relight it's self due to no coals and that's even worse in shoulder season with longer idle times, so in early season I may load one piece of oak and six pieces of poplar gradually changing to mostly oak with a few pieces of poplar in cold weather depending on my supply at the time but I always have a piece or two of the good stuff in there. I treat the soft maples like poplar.
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Re: Need firewood advice
« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2017, 08:30:29 AM »
Which poplar is this? Aspen? If it's aspen I'd say burn it on the warmer days, or mixed with the better hardwood to suit depending on temps. Aspen burns great, just not for very long😊

Typically I like to burn the "junkier" wood during the shoulder months, when you only need a minimal amount of heat

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« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2018, 01:52:11 PM »
In a cruel twist of fate, people in Alaska only have spruce and aspen to burn and very few hardwoods.  In the coldest state, people stay warm with crummy firewood. 

Be smart.  Use your best wood at night and during cold spells. 
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« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2018, 08:57:10 PM »
Currently, I have a decent supply of mostly high heat value wood, but some years I burned a lot of low value; box elder, cottonwood, pine, etc. I saw a show on TV once about people in an  impoverished area in Africa who took cattle manure, rolled it into what looked like pizza dough and dried it to burn in cook stoves. But, they had so little cash for medicines and other necessities that they had to sell the dried manure to have cash. Made me look at some of that low heat value wood much differently.  

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Re: Need firewood advice
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2018, 02:38:37 AM »
I saw a documentary on how they build a chamber to put the animal dung into. then let it ferment to produce gas that was piped to heat or cook with.

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« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2018, 07:56:20 AM »
Firewood advice/   I was looking at where responders live.   Each of us will use what nature provides is our 'AREA'.  I always have a choice of dead wood in my managed tree farm.   My firewood can not be cut until I have the crops off and have access the my woods. I have a supply of white pine slabs from my mill and lots of seed corn bags from the spring plantings to start early fires.   Then the softer hardwoods are processed before they get punky.  White oak will last for many years and still burn long and hot with lots of coals for a cold morning start.   I do not sort by species--it all burns and makes heat.   JUST different amounts of BTU'S.   Diseased trees always go first.   
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« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2018, 10:30:26 AM »
I saw a documentary on how they build a chamber to put the animal dung into. then let it ferment to produce gas that was piped to heat or cook with.
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« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2018, 09:15:11 PM »
I heat my house and shop with a OWB It's filled with 3 year old stored inside Red Oak at night . During the day its what ever junk wood I have . The only thing I won't put in the wood shed is Balsam . By the time the bugs and worms get done with it there is nothing left but dust .
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« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2018, 10:05:07 PM »
I find basswood the worst wood I have.  So far this heating season I have kept the house warm with pine slabs and half rotten box elder. Saving better wood for cold weather.  23 and windy now.
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