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Re: Load of logs now need blades help
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2017, 04:43:39 PM »
I think I could count the spruce I have on 2 hands on my land. Than on one hand I could count how many would make logs.
I only cut spruce once. More electricity was being put in above me. A good size spruce log was going to rot beside the road. Me,being the hate to see logs go to waste,went and got it. I should've used it for firewood before I cut it. It went into the burn pile. No sense in me buying a blade to saw some spruce when I don't have many logs.
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Re: Load of logs now need blades help
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2017, 06:28:10 AM »
Customer needed one more 8x8 at 4:30 pm last Saturday. 

I look up and see him bringing a 25" spruce toward me, knots everywhere could have been the national Christmas tree.

Shook my head and pointed him back to the log pile. Found another pine instead.
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Re: Load of logs now need blades help
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2017, 06:46:08 AM »
I don't think spruce is good for nothing more than paneling.
Around here we don't have any clear spruce. It's all knots.
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Re: Load of logs now need blades help
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2017, 08:37:40 AM »
Spruce makes good framing material & beams, the trick is to cut it straight!   ;)
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Re: Load of logs now need blades help
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2017, 12:00:16 PM »
Spruce makes good framing material & beams, the trick is to cut it straight!   ;)

I would not use it in any beams for my buildings. With all the knots it can't
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« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2017, 11:26:46 AM »
All the knots intertwined is what makes it strong🤡.
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Re: Load of logs now need blades help
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2017, 11:30:23 AM »
Anyone try the Ripper 37 blades in Pine ? I have all tall straight Red Pine on my property and just purchased a sawmill. Have yet to try it out but I bought some Rippers from Jerrys Resharp , hell of a nice guy .

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« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2017, 11:37:46 AM »
I just tried some. My saw sharp guy made them up for my B20 to saw EWP and I’m very happy.
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« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2017, 11:42:32 AM »
I would not use it in any beams for my buildings. With all the knots it can't
be strong...

My grandfather(s) used to make the runners for their log scoots out of spruce, “shoe” them with iron wood, yellow birch or rock maple and the bunks were made of oak. They were pretty rugged sleds.
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Re: Load of logs now need blades help
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2017, 08:38:39 PM »
Spruce makes good framing material & beams, the trick is to cut it straight!   ;)

I would not use it in any beams for my buildings. With all the knots it can't
be strong...

To each their own, but the knots in Spruce are usually quite small and wouldn't affect strength very much!
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« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2017, 01:25:19 PM »
There are many old barns and sheds standing in New England with a lot of spruce in the framing. I think the biggest issue of using spruce is the tendency of it to rot quickly from moisture. Even when used in log scoots for runners one didn’t want to leave it out in the weather unused for long.
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« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2017, 01:37:53 PM »
I had to make some stickers today... All with knots just fell apart.

No. 1 Common. Highest quality of common lumber. No. 1 Common lumber will have a few small, tight knots.
No. 2 Common. Has larger knots than found in No. 1 Common. No. 2 is often used for paneling and shelving and is suitable for general woodworking projects.
No. 3 Common. Has more and bigger knots than No. 2. The wood is typically damaged and blemished. Well-suited for fences, boxes, and crates.

Select Structural. Pretty much clear of knots. The knots that do exist are small and tight. Strongest of the four grades.
No. 1. Small, tight knots up to 1-1/2” allowed. Loose knots can only be 1” wide and can only appear once every 3 feet.
No. 2. Well-spaced knots of any quality up to 2” wide. Can have knotholes that are 1-1/4” wide every 2 feet.
No. 3. Knots of any quality can be up to 2-1/2” wide. Knotholes allowed every 1-3/4” foot.
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Re: Load of logs now need blades help
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2018, 10:41:30 PM »
Anyone try the Ripper 37 blades in Pine ? I have all tall straight Red Pine on my property and just purchased a sawmill. Have yet to try it out but I bought some Rippers from Jerrys Resharp , hell of a nice guy .
Yes he is. I was by there last week. He gave me a  couple  to try. He also gave me the name of a shop very close to my house. I like the fact I do not have to  buy 15 at a time and he makes them on  site
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« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2018, 12:36:57 AM »
I use Jerry for bands and like the Ripper 37's in 7° he also has Kasco's in 4° if you ever need the 4°
The Ripper 37's perform great on my mill and can't beat the price.
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Re: Load of logs now need blades help
« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2018, 07:41:11 AM »
Great info guys. When I bought my mill, it came with 30 or 40 blades and I've no clue what they are. All I now is they are wood mizer and I've been having them sharpen them. In the future I would like to keep records and start to see what works best but not knowing I'm sawing blind.
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« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2018, 07:42:43 AM »
Spruce makes good framing material & beams, the trick is to cut it straight!   ;)

I would not use it in any beams for my buildings. With all the knots it can't
be strong...

To each their own, but the knots in Spruce are usually quite small and wouldn't affect strength very much!
 
Plus the knots  are spaced out real good, not in a group like red pine.  Steve
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« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2018, 07:53:01 AM »
  After Simonds ruined their 3/4 pitch Red Streak blades I've tried Lennox 7/8   Kasko 3/4  Kasco 7/8  Dakin Flather 7/8 rippir 37  Dakin Flathers 3/4 Ripper s.  I think my favorite is going to be the Dakin Flather ripper s 3/4 sharpened to 4 degrees, they cut nice and straight pushing hard .  You will have no trouble cutting pine straight plus they cut spruce real nice under 12" and on a 20" cut just a hair of  a wave that will plane out on the first pass.  Steve
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« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2018, 08:29:55 AM »
How did Simonds ruin their 3/4 blades, Steve?
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« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2018, 10:43:29 AM »
 
 Their using different material and made the gullet deeper, I didn't even try them but a mill south of did and he said they are junk, wont cut straight . Both of us had been running 3/4 pitch Simomds Red Streak for years. He is the reason I tried 3/4 Simonds and found them to be the straightest cutting blades until now. I was just out cutting large WO with the 3/4 Dakin Flathers and they're working good.  Steve
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