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Sticker size and lenth?????

Started by bikedude73, February 21, 2010, 07:31:42 PM

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bikedude73

I went to help a guy with a mill and his stickers were short and I didn't know if there was a reason for that.  I would just cut stickers the length of the whole stack.  Any thoughts???????

zopi

Size doesn't matter.  :D

I prefer shorter stickers as it hurts my bloody back to bend over a wide pile of boards...but if you are banding to kiln dry ya gotta stack to fit the kiln cart...
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brdmkr

If stickers are too long, air flow through the stack will be reduced.  I like to limit my stacks to less that 48" wide.  Normally about 42" is what I use.
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twobears


i like 1 inch x 1 inch square by 48 inches long.

delbert

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i plane my stickers 3/4 thick rip them 1" wide cut 42" long, having the best stickers possible gives you the best air dried wood possible.
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Den Socling

I like red oaks' sticker size. If they are too thin or too long, you don't have enough air flow. If they are too thick, you waste a lot of space especially in a package kiln.

fireman05

I have all of mine cut 3/4" x 1 1/2" x 48" and this has workew well for me in 16+ years of sawing & KD all types of lumber.  I have always made mine from northern white cedar so the sticker staining has been minimal.

I place the stickers about 16" apart and an 8' long pile will have 6 stickers per row.
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Cedarman

Two things very critical in stickering.  Same thickness stickers for each layer.  Stickers must be exactly on top of the one below.  Also bolsters or blocking must be under each row of stickers .
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bzsawyer

I agree most with Red Oaks and Cedarman for sticker size. We use 3/4 x 1 1/8 x 46''. Ash and Maple have worked the best for me. The 1 1/8'' wide seems to be strong enough to resist compression yet narrow enough to eliminate sticker shadow. And the 46'' length makes the packs just right to fit 2 side by side on the kiln cart. How ever the lumber is put up is the shape it will have when dry so careful stickering and skids under each stick row is a must.
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inwoodcutter

Quote from: brdmkr on February 22, 2010, 03:32:48 PM
If stickers are too long, air flow through the stack will be reduced.  I like to limit my stacks to less that 48" wide.  Normally about 42" is what I use.

I do the same as far as width of stacks. It does get to be a pain to do much wider and much narrower and the stack becomes unstable. Also the narrower stack will force you to stack higher, again making it unstable but also helping by adding weight upon the central boards.

I have to disagree that a wide stack will produce that much air restriction. Several high end commercial hardwood mills I know use 8 foot stickers. they simply have the equipment to handle that size load. Most of them do air dry for a while before they charge the kiln.

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mrselfreliance

Would trembling ash make good stickers?

Al_Smith

In the past I've went to the lumber yards and got dunnage boards for free and ripped them into 3/4" stock .They were 48" long. I've done a paper  barrel full at a time .Makes a lot of sawdust 

GeneWengert-WoodDoc

Another option is to disassemble old pallets.  Watch out for nails.
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Also, you could visit the larger drying operations ( most use five and six foot long stickers and sometimes longer) and buy their broken stickers to make a lot of 4' sticks.
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moodnacreek

48" sounds good but 50"+ is the length because 5 10" boards is 50". So 50" handles all common widths.

A-z farmer

I make the pallets 50 inches wide and the stickers 52 inches long so they stick out an inch on both sides.I do this for the same reason as  moodnacreek.

YellowHammer

If you make them too proud of the stack, whenever you pick up a stack with a fork lift or loader, the too long stickers will snag and snap off on the backstop of the forks carrier.  So a couple inches works for me.  
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Quote from: YellowHammer on October 13, 2020, 08:32:28 PMIf you make them too proud of the stack, whenever you pick up a stack with a fork lift or loader, the too long stickers will snag


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