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« on: December 18, 2017, 09:03:42 AM »
 

 

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Re: Loving these lumber prices
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2017, 09:34:48 AM »
I had guy call me two weeks ago and ask if I matched big box store prices on Hardwood. I said I would be glad to raise my price to match theirs if he wanted me to. ;D
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2017, 09:47:18 AM »
I had guy call me two weeks ago and ask if I matched big box store prices on Hardwood. I said I would be glad to raise my price to match theirs if he wanted me to. ;D
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2017, 09:49:50 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2017, 10:01:22 AM »
I better start chargeing more
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Re: Loving these lumber prices
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2017, 10:57:34 AM »
#2 top choice?
What the bleep grade is that?
Then says common further down the sticker.
and I wonder what species is that white wood.
Also notice that they now post actual dimensions for the board.
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2017, 11:49:13 AM »
I've always wondered what species "white wood" was?

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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2017, 01:06:18 PM »
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 The local lumber yards sell clapboards that are Canadian ''whitewood'',I get a chuckle out of that myself.Why be specific when you can make such a broad description?
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2017, 01:37:24 PM »
The term "whitewood" has been commonly used in the industry for decades. Its a generic term for utility wood used in cabinet making or other projects, not suitable for structural framing lumber. Just remember that price reflects all of the supplier cost, overhead, trucking, (plus profit margin), etc., that got that board there to sell. Every set of hands that handled it added to that cost.
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Re: Loving these lumber prices
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2017, 03:00:30 PM »
#2 top choice?
What the bleep grade is that?
Then says common further down the sticker.
and I wonder what species is that white wood.
Also notice that they now post actual dimensions for the board.

"Top Choice" is a Lowe's trade name.  It is their personal branding on product.  "Whitewood" is a generic marketing term covering the appearance grade of a number of species.  Most of what I see in Lowe's is either spruce or fir.  I went in there to get some trim boards to trim out a door on a utility shed.  After seeing the prices, I came home and scrounged through my stash to see what I had on hand.  My doors will be trimmed in 4/4 x 4 cypress. 

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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2017, 07:15:59 PM »
I had guy call me two weeks ago and ask if I matched big box store prices on Hardwood. I said I would be glad to raise my price to match theirs if he wanted me to. ;D

 :D that's the funniest thing I've heard all day
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2017, 07:25:27 PM »
If the wife wanted  one for a shelf, "yesterday", I would not have a problem paying that for one.  :D

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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2017, 08:03:25 PM »
If a 1X12 Shelving board is that high in SC I'd be scared to look up here. 

They started putting actual dimensions cause they, or someone, got sued for selling lumber that was not what was advertised. Stupid people in this world. 
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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2017, 09:17:48 PM »
I've always wondered what species "white wood" was?

I believe white wood in french is bois blanc and that translate to basswood.
Marcel please correct me if I'm wrong.
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2017, 09:23:18 PM »
So this is Lowe's?  I am going to The Big City on Thursday. I will have to look for this whitewood.
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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2017, 09:40:45 PM »
Ive seen white wood on the shelf here. I understood it to be a  trade name for a group of species of similar characteristics similar to "SPF" or "Victorian Ash".
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2017, 09:51:23 PM »
I've always wondered what species "white wood" was?

I believe white wood in french is bois blanc and that translate to basswood.
Marcel please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Nah, generic term for soft spruce/fir/pine that is used for molding, interior trim, etc.  Old term now.  Helped lumber shops, now big box, sell northern state softwood without having to keep track of what is what.  Not framing lumber.  So, by combining  White Pine Spruce Fir they just covered a lot of species basis and they can market it.  Mean Whole Plain Face (WPF).  Bland boring wood good for paint or stain
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2017, 07:21:04 AM »
Seems to me not just SPF but also basswood, popular,  and other low value generic logs that take stain and paint easily.      It is a good marketing strategy for corporations to get a high return from low value logs.

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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2017, 09:48:48 AM »
#2 top choice?
What the bleep grade is that?


I think they used a part time lumber grader who also works as a USDA beef grader and the poor guy forgot who he was grading for at the time.   :D  Maybe it's grass finished lumber?  Boy that "White Wood" sure has some fine marbling in the ribeye!!
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2017, 10:02:09 AM »
If a 1X12 Shelving board is that high in SC I'd be scared to look up here. 

They started putting actual dimensions cause they, or someone, got sued for selling lumber that was not what was advertised. Stupid people in this world.

That's the way the media framed it. If I recall the real problem was that they were selling 2x4s that were smaller than 1 1/2 x 3 1/2". Inspectors began noticing the lumber looked smaller than normal and raised the red flag.

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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2017, 12:50:46 PM »
Always thought white wood was tulip and or aspen etc. but not conifer. Those box stores should charge even more because they have it all ; bathrooms, credit card machines, long hours, returns, indoor shopping and so on. This is what the consumer demands.  They believe because of a few sale items everything in the store is cheaper. 

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« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2018, 07:12:24 PM »
Lumber prices high here in Canada as well . I saw at the big box store

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« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2018, 08:05:39 PM »
Lumber prices high here in Canada as well . I saw at the big box store

2x6x10 SPF.  $ 8.80 a piece

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.88 per board foot for framing lumber,  ain't too shabby!  I feel like things are coming around for the little guy!   :)
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« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2018, 08:52:10 PM »
Yes not to shabby


I not sure if it's just me but looking at some of the 2x material in the big box stores I am thinking the quality is going down all the time.

I looked at 2x4 and 2x6 and most of what I saw was not good . It seems that these big planers that they run now are just tearing the lumber to the correct size.

Most of what I looked at would be much better if they sharpened the planer . A dull tool never produces good lumber .

Small trees , dull saws, duller planers . It may be the right size but it sure looks bad .

Not to blow my own horn but if I packed a bundle of my 2x material up alongside I bet mine would be all sold before anyone took one piece of the other.



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« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2018, 12:38:43 PM »
I keep wondering if they are putting larger radiuses on the edges so they can make more particle board? Last time I bought framing 2x's the had at least 3/8" radius on all 4 edges.
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« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2018, 10:44:35 PM »
Why do they radius the corners . I produce sharp edge I like the look of it and I like working with it better than the round edge .

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Why do they radius the corners . I produce sharp edge I like the look of it and I like working with it better than the round edge .

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I keep wondering if they are putting larger radiuses on the edges so they can make more particle board? Last time I bought framing 2x's the had at least 3/8" radius on all 4 edges.

It's a mystery,  I also prefer square edge lumber over the radius....I feel it's more precise if it's cut right
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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2018, 06:15:16 AM »
I think the square edge is more acceptable to damage. With everyone
handling it all the time I think it would look in rough shape and be
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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2018, 07:28:59 AM »
I wish they would stop doing the radius. especially when trying to lay 2 pieces of drywall onto 1 stud. But for some reason they seem to think that it is important. Maybe its just what sells.
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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2018, 08:50:04 AM »
Just FYI,   The reason for the radius has to do with fire prevention.  The round edge takes more heat to ignite than the sharp square edge.

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« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2018, 09:11:04 AM »
I go in Home Depot and nod my head. I like these prices. I saw mostly for myself and the higher the prices, the more $$$ I save.  :D
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« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2018, 01:18:23 PM »
You can't have a square edge if it was never there.

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« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2018, 02:03:47 PM »
I would be hesitant to think that the rounded corners are designed for any customer's benefit but rather the result of the manufacturing/processing operation.  Their only goal is high production.
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« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2018, 02:31:33 PM »
Just FYI,   The reason for the radius has to do with fire prevention.  The round edge takes more heat to ignite than the sharp square edge.

So this is the only correct answer? Never knew that . Seems a little strange to me but then what do I know .?

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« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2018, 03:06:48 PM »
In addition to the other speculative ideas on rounded corners how about allowing some airflow through the stack?

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Having been a planerman in a large production mill, I know the reason for the eased edges. S4S without eased edges is sharp and very hard on leather gloves, aprons, hands and clothes. 
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« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2018, 07:43:15 PM »
Having been a planerman in a large production mill, I know the reason for the eased edges. S4S without eased edges is sharp and very hard on leather gloves, aprons, hands and clothes.

I wonder why they leave the shelving board edges square and sharp? ::)

Hmmm....another lumber yard mystery... :D
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« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2018, 01:25:53 AM »
Construction lumber isn't likely to be edge joined like regular S4S.
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« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2018, 07:13:21 AM »
Having been a planerman in a large production mill, I know the reason for the eased edges. S4S without eased edges is sharp and very hard on leather gloves, aprons, hands and clothes. 

The cost of PPE is negligible compared to the cost of the equipment to produce a radius.  If anyone thinks a large lumber company cares at all about employee clothing costs enough to add an expensive step to production I have a bridge to sell you. (old saying)  :D     
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« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2018, 07:53:48 AM »
A knife with a radius costs the same thing as a square edged knife.
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« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2018, 09:47:48 AM »
A knife with a radius costs the same thing as a square edged knife.

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