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« on: December 19, 2017, 08:10:50 AM »
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Re: bugpeople's Butt and pass build thread
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2017, 12:45:13 AM »
What about the method makes it stronger?
What keeps it from settling?
Is it cheaper, just because it is faster, or is there other reasons?
Just trying to learn something here?
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2017, 09:03:19 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2017, 09:15:32 PM »
welcome to the FF
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2017, 05:26:24 PM »
Interesting, It is not the finished look I would personally want, but I can see where it is fast and easy.
I am not sold on the stronger part either as many folks use the rebar with other methods too, but in such away that the logs are not shrinking away from each other.
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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2018, 11:25:14 AM »
BP  good luck with the build.  I had seen one of your video's on You Tube, where you were lifting a log with the tractor and drilling and inserting rebar.  Stay safe.  Still waiting to hear from Al Ag Credit on this end.
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2018, 10:01:58 AM »
As a woodworker and having built a pine log home, I too know that wood shrinks. One of the challenges of wood joints! and wood log walls.
I believe the operative word is "trangential shrinkage" here?
Positive or negative,  I cannot wrap my head around the wood drying around a rebar? Try as I might.
Like, how do the windows and doors build into those walls? Headspace?
 I've made chips and dust out of many, many types of wood and they all shrink and most crack to the center as the drying takes place. The lone exception in my experience is catalpa, out of which I carved many bowls, by hand using a gouge and carvers mallet. Not one has ever cracked which is why it was a wood of choice for "cigar store Indians". One of the worst woods to develope radial cracks as used in larger timbers is yellow poplar. As I sit here and look away at the log ends of winter cut SYP, I do see a few cracks, some logs more than others but not enough to bother the structures integrity, no rebar.
Interesting build! Good luck! One of my DIL's is from down below Decatur.
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2018, 03:18:05 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2018, 05:01:46 PM »
bugpeople,this non grit eater ain't a laughing at you. Have not been in the above double digit for 5-6 days here.  :( We are at least prepared and expect below freezing weather,just not for so long. Thes cold snap set a record here in Maine. Never been this cold for so long. Nothing above 15.
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2018, 01:52:49 AM »
By thaw out the Honda, I hope you don't mean it didn't have enough antifreeze.
One of my customers brought me a toyota with a bad timing belt once. It turned out the reason the belt stripped was the water froze, and warped the head enough the cam would not turn.
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2018, 08:41:28 AM »
By thaw out the Honda, I hope you don't mean it didn't have enough antifreeze.
One of my customers brought me a toyota with a bad timing belt once. It turned out the reason the belt stripped was the water froze, and warped the head enough the cam would not turn.

crap, I hope not. The mixture wasn't 50/50 (I had topped it off over the summer one hot day in a walmart parking lot). It starts and runs, and no water out of the tailpipe, thank goodness- stupid thing just overheats. I took the radiator out and put in the bathtub with really hot water for about 20 minutes, just to be sure no ice in it. Then I took out the thermostat to test it- it didn't open in a pan of water on the stove until the water started boiling (I've heard they are supposed to open around 170-190, not 212), so I replaced it, but it would still overheat. I took the cap off and watched for any movement while it warmed up- I didn't see any flow. I took out the thermostat and started it again- still nothing- doesn't look like it's circulating. Only thing left is to take off the return hose, rev the engine, and see if anything shoots out. If not, I'm guessing it's the waterpump, which means I gotta pull the motor. Only thing is- there's no weeping from waterpump that I can see, and it doesn't make the whiny noise I've heard on other motors. Buddy of mine says they can go silently, so, I don't know......

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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2018, 08:47:32 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2018, 12:47:20 PM »
Call this curiosity not trying to be a pest at all. You got enough on yer plate with vehicles for any 2 or 3 people!
My log house from green SYP settled for the what I thought was typical 7 or so years.
Stands to reason, the same species in the same sizes and winter cut is gonna dry over the same time period unless it's a desert, not the SE USA? I'm interested to see where those re-bar pins are placed?
 At the corners, parallel to the log itself? Like lathe headpost/tailstock?
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2018, 02:07:49 PM »
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Re: bugpeople's Butt and pass build thread
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2018, 09:22:19 PM »
Bugpeople,
Good to meet another Hunsvillian.  I've lived in and around Hsville since 72, but am now in New Market.  Which part of the county are you in?
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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2018, 11:24:26 PM »
I love the build pics - it appears that you are over half way up.  Gives me great inspiration on my own LHBA structure. 

As to us northerners, we are freezing much like the rest of the country right now.  We have been averaging -5F to -10F since before Christmas.  It was -18 the other day.

I am headed to florida next week for a retreat, enough of this craziness. :snowfight1:
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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2018, 11:42:10 PM »
From what I hear there are frozen iguanas falling out of trees in FL  :D
My Mom emailed last night that they got 4" of snow in eastern NC, we just got a dusting out of that one, that's different.

I'm wondering, if preventing settlement is the goal, why is the rebar run vertically? If the rebar were driven at divergent angles down the length of the log it would lock the gap better. Much like driving opposed toenails without holding the boards tight to one another, no amount of pounding will allow the gap to close. Where if the nails are driven straight in it is easy to drive the gap tight.

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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2018, 03:15:26 AM »
Man O Man, I never liked running a jack hammer standing on the ground, pretty sure I would not like up in the air. lol

I have a funny story about jackhammers. I worked for a contractor digging swimming swimming pools in the L A area years ago. We dug a pool a day, but on one particular jog we hit solid granite a foot down. We left but a day or two later was told to go back to the same location. When I got there, there was a huge air compressor and 5 jack hammers, the boss ask me if I mind running a jack hammer. I told him no, and he said good, he figured I might, that is when I said BUT, I'm not going to start digging a swimming pool with one. He said yep, that is exactly what I figured.
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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2018, 08:50:33 AM »
Bugpeople,
Good to meet another Hunsvillian.  I've lived in and around Hsville since 72, but am now in New Market.  Which part of the county are you in?
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wow! cool. I looked at your website- any good deals on car decking? I'm gonna need a few TONS of it (my roof square footage on the plans is 52x40). I doubt I have enough trees or skill to do it myself.

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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2018, 09:32:58 AM »
Bugpeople,
Good to meet another Hunsvillian.  I've lived in and around Hsville since 72, but am now in New Market.  Which part of the county are you in?
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I'm a senior, life long wood worker, w/dedicated shop & WMLT15 too, who has a life time supply of wood on hand(sort of) and must say I really enjoyed taking a look/see @ your website. Nice operation! Currently sawing a sassafras tree- if it warms up a bit! I didn't realize the walnuts were beetle dying? have to read up on that one. Nice set-up! and good luck selling your lumber. Mike
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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2018, 09:36:35 AM »
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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2018, 09:44:14 AM »
Man O Man, I never liked running a jack hammer standing on the ground, pretty sure I would not like up in the air. lol

I have a funny story about jackhammers. I worked for a contractor digging swimming swimming pools in the L A area years ago. We dug a pool a day, but on one particular jog we hit solid granite a foot down. We left but a day or two later was told to go back to the same location. When I got there, there was a huge air compressor and 5 jack hammers, the boss ask me if I mind running a jack hammer. I told him no, and he said good, he figured I might, that is when I said BUT, I'm not going to start digging a swimming pool with one. He said yep, that is exactly what I figured.

dynamite? yeah, probably not. I used to be a cable monkey at the phone company, so I'm not really afraid of heights. I AM afraid of falling, though, so.....

There was an opening at the phone company years ago for an antenna climber- I put in for it and got down to the final 4 candidates. My ex (when we were still married) found out and told me to withdraw, but I probably would've gotten the job- "must be able to climb 400' antenna in all types of weather, drive a snow-cat, snow mobile, and 4x4 vehicle in all types of weather." It was in Jackson Hole. Would have been heaven, I thought. Oh well.

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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2018, 03:25:44 PM »
Funny you mentioned dynamite. We had to jackhammer 12'6 in that granite on the deep end. The way I understood it, he paid 6 grand more for this with the plan that if that didn't cut it, we would blast it, but it would be another 6 grand on top of it.
Since I was not running a hammer and just running the loader and truck, when they got enough chipped out, I had a LOT of free time, the house owner would take me riding around the neighborhood in his vet, his wife drove a Mercedes. This guy was not doing too shabby for a state trooper.
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2018, 03:19:24 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2018, 11:25:45 AM »
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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2018, 04:46:02 PM »
Every day :D. Lord its hard to be humble. When you're on the porch rocking chair living those memories again, which will mean more, and go with that if you can  :).

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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2018, 03:57:33 PM »
Well, he wasn't feeling well when I got there Friday. All that frustration and anxiety over losing friends evaporated. I finished up all the welding, just need to drill holes to connect all the track together. I'll post some pics and stuff probably tomorrow- When I get out there today, I'll bolt the whole thing together, level it, and maybe cut a rafter. We'll see.

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« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2018, 03:58:12 PM »
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« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2018, 05:09:17 PM »
blade is dull
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« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2018, 06:43:32 PM »
Best bet.
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« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2018, 09:28:20 AM »
blade is dull
Awesome. Thanks. The thing came with two replacement blades-  I'll try them.

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« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2018, 09:55:25 AM »
I just searched youtube and found a sharpening video- I'm going to try that, too.  Here's a post I wrote about the new 30' track I made (which is working great): Log Home Journey

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« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2018, 03:01:54 PM »
Let me make a post here that all Forestry Forum members can read so you know what kind of guy this bugpeople is.

He came on and broke a rule. Actually a couple of them. He posted a political post in his topic and it was also made only to encourage people to visit his blog where he would be adding content instead of here and sign up for his channels.
His post was removed and he was told why content needed to be here, so if he were to change his interests in the future and remove his blog or photos there, that the contest would still be alive and well here on the forum.

So what does he do, he goes and deletes his posts and photos here that he had posted.  Nice guy eh?  Well, he has been banned, but I've left his username in case you come across him somewhere. Remember, he was a guy that defaced our Forestry Forum.

If you want to share it, share it here. The purpose for this website is not to promote yours. The reason for the content being here, is that I have control over it and it will be here in the future.  If you decide to move or remove your blog, move your videos, delete content because it no longer seems relevant to your life, you won't be deleting Forestry Forum content.
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« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2018, 08:33:48 PM »
Thanks for clearing up what was going on Jeff.  I kept coming across"hi" and didn't know what to make of it.  I figured someone had deleated their posts.   The way you run this forum is tops.  Thank you. Many times I have went to sites to get a look at something and guess what its not there anymore.  We like it just the way you do it.   Banjo
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« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2018, 11:47:38 AM »
If you want to share it, share it here. The purpose for this website is not to promote yours. The reason for the content being here, is that I have control over it and it will be here in the future.  If you decide to move or remove your blog, move your videos, delete content because it no longer seems relevant to your life, you won't be deleting Forestry Forum content.
It's a hassle for me to upload separate photos to this forum since I usually already have them stored on Flickr but I certainly understand why and appreciate the effort you go to to keep all the content on this website. A professional website I belong to for my profession is the same way and it makes sure the archives stay valuable. Since photobuket screwed everyone over last year many forums have had their content gutted. I've learned a ton digging through old posts on this site and it's so nice to always have the pictures available.
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« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2018, 12:28:50 PM »
Don't bet against Flickr photos or Facebook photos doing the same thing as pbucket one day. Advertising in a warehouse is not a sustainable business model.
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« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2018, 02:24:27 PM »
Kind of off topic three times over but...

There is no doubt the decision to require images to be local to the forum is the right one.

Been a part of too many forums where past knowledge is lost and posts rendered useless due to image hosting changes.

I'm not much of a web developer and certainly didn't stay at a holiday inn last night, but...

I wonder if there is a plugin for SMF (or could be created) that would allow images to be included in posts from wherever and those images would be automatically added to the users gallery (or a general forum cache).  It would make things easier for the poster.

There could also be a benefit to Jeff as well - by default the image would be loaded from where it originated, saving untold gigabytes in bandwidth.  If the image no longer exists it would be loaded from the gallery\cache.

When image hosting sites disappear totally, it could be blacklisted entirely without losing any images.

All seamless and behind the scenes...

Just an idea...

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« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2018, 03:14:41 PM »
All of which promotes copyright issues. A photo to be used here needs to be your property or you need to have expressed permission to use it. You can bet your sweet bippy if the copyright police come calling I will give them all the information they need for the person in violation.  Its happened. It does happen. Just finding a picture on line and using it here is very very risky as there are outfits out there that are hoping you use their photo so they can come after you.

I have no wish what so ever to make it any easier for someone to post a photo than it is now. it is not that hard, and if one does not want to take the little bit of time to figure it out, then, we don't need or want to see it. Its worked for 18 years, I see no need to change anything more than I did this past spring.
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