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HELP! circle mill..no name. Backwards?
« on: January 05, 2018, 11:49:11 PM »
I come from a large family who operated a community saw mill for 3/4 of the 20th century. I was too young to actually be around it when it became obsolete, shut down, sold off, and long gone. I am a builder and have always had a wood shop and made things.. I had a band saw briefly years ago. Wasn't impressed..really! I have always wanted a circle mill. I think it's just in my blood.
So. Last Saturday, I bought a decent setup at an auction. But was not present. Haha. Looked good in pic. Long story short. Somebody threw some John Deere green and yellow on it and well. Let's say, it needs a little TLC. But I'm in no hurry.
What I know about it...It has the letter "V" in the casting. There are no other markings or identifications. It's PTO SHAFT driven. The sawyer position and the whole direction of the feed of the saw seems to be backward of EVERYTHING I've watched, seen pics of, or read about.
Can someone help me out?


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Re: HELP! circle mill..no name. Backwards?
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2018, 12:13:50 AM »
What you have is a left hand mill. Somewhat common, not unheard of. Other than that I can tell you nothing, good luck.
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Re: HELP! circle mill..no name. Backwards?
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2018, 05:38:09 AM »
Nothing wrong with a lefty. Your PTO hookup, does it have a gear box or twist belt or similar? Standard tractor PTO's turn the wrong way to drive a left hand mill and you need to be able to reverse the rotation, most left hand mills tend to be run off stationary motors.

Bad information about rotation direction. I knew that a mill was easily configured for PTO on one hand and required a rotational direction change for the other. I just got them wrong. Easy to tell I'm not used to PTO drives huh? Thanks to those who corrected me.
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Re: HELP! circle mill..no name. Backwards?
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2018, 05:51:07 AM »
Looks like a JA Vance setworks.  I'm sure someone will know for sure.

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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2018, 06:55:44 AM »
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2018, 10:57:49 AM »
Thank you for the comments and welcoming.  Despite single digit temps, I went out to the farm and took some better pics.  I will post those.  I was coming to the conclusion it was a "lefty". How much work would it take to change it to a right hand.  What do you all think of the carriage and the way it's set up otherwise, other than the logs taken out from under it and put on it to saw! lol Any and all help very much appreciated. I know nothing so...


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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2018, 11:12:01 AM »
It has a 42" blade and I would really like to know more about it specifically if anyone can help there. Maybe a place I could take it within 100 miles of Knoxville to have it hammered and buy the correct teeth.

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Re: HELP! circle mill..no name. Backwards?
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2018, 11:39:47 AM »
Nothing wrong with a lefty. Your PTO hookup, does it have a gear box or twist belt or similar? Standard tractor PTO's turn the wrong way to drive a left hand mill and you need to be able to reverse the rotation, most left hand mills tend to be run off stationary motors.

Right hand mills turn the wrong direction to be powered directly from a tractor PTO.  Left hand mills can have the PTO shaft hooked directly to the mandrel.

 

 

 

  
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2018, 12:01:12 PM »
CORLEY5. Oh I see.  Is that your tractor driving a mill? Do you have pics of the mill?

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Re: HELP! circle mill..no name. Backwards?
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2018, 12:05:14 PM »
Nothing wrong with a left handed mill.  I sawed on one for 25 yrs.  To switch over, you would probably have to reverse your pulley system, and that would be a job. 

What are you intending to saw on the mill?  How much?  Your maximum depth of cut on that blade would be around 16-17". 
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2018, 12:08:42 PM »
That's mine :)  It's been disassembled, moved and is in storage awaiting reassembly.  There's pics in my gallery  http://www.forestryforum.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=246&page=1  I have a second left hand Corley 5 that we hauled home from south central Missouri.
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2018, 12:35:11 PM »
Ron, yeah its a small blade.  I probably will look into a larger diameter.  I have a 70 horse 282 Massey I am going to pull it with.  What came on it, so I may saw some smaller soft wood until then

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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2018, 05:43:36 PM »
Somewhere I'v seen the 2 reach rods before, maybe in C.H.Wendell,s book 'circular sawmills. Your saw looks like a style 3. That mill being a l\h could be tractor pto driven  like in the post with the IH tractor. The saw would have to be happy at 500rpm.                             

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Re: HELP! circle mill..no name. Backwards?
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2018, 07:14:13 PM »
Style 3s have two holes in the shank for the wrench pins.  I think you may have a 2 1/2.

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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2018, 08:43:28 PM »
Sorry about that style 3 comment. That would be 2 1/2.     When Simonds made style 3 super shanks they only had 1 hole but these are seldom seen.








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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2018, 09:02:23 PM »
I'm thinking 3 style with a regular bit..
 

 


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