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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2018, 08:42:15 PM »
On the spruce here, the bark easily comes off in one piece of the winter cut logs. But there is a short window of time you have to do it when the weather starts warming up.
The ones I have been around has been skidding, but on snow, the logs have never touched dirt, a guy might be able to get by with that, the bark doesn't look affected.
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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2018, 08:52:57 PM »
It's my understanding that you would want to fell the Poplar tree in the Spring when the tree is waking up from dormancy.
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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2018, 09:41:24 PM »
I have peeled poplar bark off a tree in the Spring a number of years ago to make a bark berry bucket.

Like this:

https://survivalsherpa.wordpress.com/2016/10/09/how-to-make-an-appalachian-berry-bucket-from-tree-bark/
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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2018, 11:41:46 PM »
It's my understanding that you would want to fell the Poplar tree in the Spring when the tree is waking up from dormancy.

Around here by mid April poplar bark begins to slip, and does so until about July.  Picture what would happen if you grabbed a banana that had been peeled and soaked in oil then wrapped the peel back around it, that is what grabbing a poplar log with a grapple is like when the stuff is really slipping, there are times the log will just shoot out of the grapple and you are chasing it around, it's funny for the first 3 seconds.   
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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2018, 12:16:34 AM »
Our Aspen up here "self peels" from about mid May through June, it messes with the harvester's measuring systems and is not fun to haul on the forwarder, I've seen guys go home early after getting frustrated with springtime aspen.

I've also read of Birch being used for roof shingles long ago in Scandinavian countries. Paper birch (or Baltic in their case) is very impermeable to water, which is also why birch rots so fast if the bark is on it.
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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2018, 06:22:08 AM »
I've found that each species of tree has a certain time of year when they peel the best!
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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2018, 07:10:59 AM »
Several years ago, my wife and I took a "Fall Colors" bus tour thru the Adirondacks, and visited the Vanderbuilt Estate Summer Home.  All the original buildings were sided with white pine and hemlock bark. It had been exposed to the weather since the turn of the century, and still looked good. They had a photo gallery that showed the workmen peeling it with spuds and staking to dry.  The individual pieces were quite large and they had about 18" exposed. Don't know if there is market for it now.
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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2018, 08:37:46 AM »
   My wife and I visited a pygmy village in north and east of the town of Kribi  Cameroon in West Africa back in February 2008 and I noticed the huts there had been sided with big sheets of some kind of bark off a local tree. I found this unusual as the pygmies normally made round huts covered with various big local leaves from the jungle added from bottom to top to shed water. More/replacement leaves would be added as needed if they stayed in that spot longer than the original leaves would support. A common roof and sometimes side walls material were palm fronds split then the leaves would be folded to one side and pegged with what looked like toothpicks. These panels were usually 5'-8' long and 14"-16" wide and were installed from bottom up to shed the rain. An advantage of corrugated metal panels, commonly referred to as "Zinc", was that they cost nothing except a little labor which had no value there, and they were much cooler than metal but they did have to be replaced every few years while metal typically lasted 20+ years.
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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2018, 10:38:12 AM »
Hemlock was peeled in much the same way for use in tanneries.The stripped tree was left behind.I wonder if those stripped poplars were left behind as well.Would be a shame as they were some very nice trees.
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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2018, 02:59:52 PM »
While stripping the bark and leaving the log would seem to be a terrible waste, I see on a regular basis here where someone strips a 2 foot section of bark from a birch tree and leaves the tree standing, looks like it would be less waste to drop the tree and strip the whole trunk.
I think it is mostly used for arts and crafts, so they probably do not need that much bark though.
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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2018, 01:32:26 AM »
And may not know that they have doomed the tree.  :-\
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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2018, 07:41:26 AM »
Taking off the bark and leaving the skint tree standing is like killing a deer and only taking the backstraps. 
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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2018, 04:31:01 PM »
Drive any of the log roads and you will see it quite a bit, usually about a 2 foot section. I suspect it is mostly folks using it for arts and crafts and they probably think the tree will be fine if they just take a little.
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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2018, 05:09:11 PM »
I don't believe removing the bark from a birch necessarily kills it. A little googling found this paper: http://nrd.kbic-nsn.gov/sites/default/files/GatheringBirchandBirchBark_0.pdf

It's long but the first couple pages cover birch bark removal from standing trees.

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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2018, 06:33:04 PM »
Difference is choosing between the outer and inner bark. If you can peel off the outer 1/2 thickness of the bark, while leaving the "green" and still living layer next to the wood, then the tree is likely not harmed.

If you remove all the bark layers, then the tree is in trouble.

Same thing with Cork Oaks. They can go around and trim off the out layer of cork bark, without harming the tree. More bark grows back in the future, and can be harvested again.
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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2018, 09:04:27 PM »
I should mark some of these and see what they do. I know where the bark has been removed, they are pretty much black after a while.
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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2018, 11:35:35 PM »
Walnut will peel just as well, timing of the sap moving is everything. I slit a small 10" log, 5' long, vertically with a chainsaw, just starting to cut into the sapwood. Got it started with a flat bar, and took the entire bark off in one piece. I was just goofing around, and as mentioned, it curled like a potato chip as it dried.

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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2018, 08:13:10 PM »
I sold a little this year.  Its more work than you think.

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Re: Selling Squares of Bark
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2018, 08:20:52 PM »
Well was it worth it, is the market pretty strong?
Watching the vides, yep it is labor intensive.
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