The Forestry Forum is sponsored in part by:


Forestry Forum
Sponsored by:


TimberKing Sawmills



Toll Free 1-800-582-0470

LogRite Tools



Norwood Industries Inc.


Sawmill & Woodlot Magazine



Your source for Portable Sawmills, Edgers, Resaws, Sharpeners, Setters, Bandsaw Blades and Sawmill Parts

EZ Boardwalk Sawmills. More Saw For Less Money!

STIHLDealers.com sponsored by Northeast STIHL


Woodland Sawmills

Peterson Swingmills

 KASCO SharpTech WoodMaxx Blades

Turbosawmill

Sawmill Exchange

BRUTE FORCE Authorized Dealer

Woodshax Outdoor Vending Solutions

FARMA


Council Tool

Baker Products

ECHO-Bearcat

Arborwear



Author Topic: Rops structure on tractors.  (Read 3041 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline BargeMonkey

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 2477
  • Age: 33
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
Rops structure on tractors.
« on: January 07, 2018, 08:00:17 PM »
 I love to come on here and joke, B.S and talk about iron. I'm sure alot of you do have a rops, I'm sure some guys don't, a very well known local logger was killed here the other day when his tractor rolled over, 2nd logger in a week who I know who was killed. Maybe take a minute to evaluate what iron your running and if it will stand up to a roll over. 👍

Offline Onthesauk

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 1017
  • Age: 72
  • Location: Mount Vernon, WA
  • Gender: Male
  • Still learning!
    • Share Post
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2018, 08:08:10 PM »
A number of years ago had a friend roll his excavator down a ravine.  Not wearing a belt and died.  Another fellow I know rolled his multiple times down and survived but changed careers. 
John Deere 3038E
Sukuki LT-F500

Dont attribute irritating behavior to malevolence when mere stupidity will suffice as an explanation.

Offline mjeselskis

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 341
  • Age: 33
  • Location: Western Maine
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
    • Big Rock Lumber
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2018, 08:19:33 PM »
I was just thinking tonight about something to add to the standard roll bar on my tractor. I've had a few trees or big limbs come down hard on the roll bar while pulling out wood that made me wish I had a roof.
2006 WM LT28  2002 John Deere 990

Offline Ianab

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 12375
  • Age: 55
  • Location: Stratford , New Zealand
  • Gender: Male
  • Marmite on toast is a real breakfast
    • Share Post
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2018, 08:28:18 PM »
  A couple of years back a a track gave way on a local guy and he and his digger rolled ~900ft down into a gully. Luckily it was fully "bush rigged", rops / fops etc, and he was wearing a seat belt. Apparently it took him about 3 hours to find his way back up to the track. The digger is still down there....

But the cage and belt meant he wasn't seriously injured.
Weekend warrior, Peterson JP test pilot, Dolmar 7900 and Stihl MS310 saws and  the usual collection of power tools :)

Offline Skeans1

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 548
  • Location: Rainier, OR
  • I'm new!
    • Share Post
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2018, 08:41:05 PM »
I'm pretty sure I heard about that during a safety meeting up here from some NZ guys crazy pictures.

Offline Loghauler86

  • member
  • *
  • Posts: 28
  • Age: 32
  • Location: Millerton,ny
  • Gender: Male
  • I'm new!
    • Share Post
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2018, 08:51:41 PM »
I knew Jake from the Brockway truck show. What a shame, he was a real nice guy.

Offline lopet

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 1141
  • Age: 57
  • Location: SW Ontario Canada
  • Gender: Male
  • Do not climb any higher your comportable falling !
    • Share Post
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2018, 09:28:02 PM »
But the cage and belt meant he wasn't seriously injured.

You can still bang your head pretty good even if you're buckled up.

No ROPS  is a no go for me.  I backed up to a log with a tractor many years ago and bumped into a dead elm with my loader arms. Baaaaamm, there was a 8" limb on my roof. Just saying, I love cages but always have a escape plan.
Make sure you know how to fall properly when you fall and as to not hurt anyone around you.
Also remember, it's not the fall what hurts, its the sudden stop. !!

Offline Crusarius

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 1384
  • Age: 40
  • Location: Canadice, New York
  • Gender: Male
  • Lost in....
    • Share Post
    • RockModified.com
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2018, 09:40:36 PM »
My fibergalss one will be going away for a 14 gage steel one I will be building. Being a volunteer firefighter you see enough ppl stuck under equipment you think alot about it.

This was one I built for a friend who is also a volunteer and a sheriff.
http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,95864.msg1478924.html#msg1478924
I knew what I thought I meant.

Offline Oliver05262

  • Full Member x2
  • ***
  • Posts: 205
  • Age: 74
  • Location: Shaftsbury, Vermont
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2018, 09:58:14 PM »
  You don't have to fabricate your own ROPS; in fact I wouldn't recommend it if there is a certified one available. There is a program that has gone nationwide now that will help you purchase and install a certified, engineered, ROPS on your tractor.
https://www.ropsr4u.com/
Check out the website, or contact your local extension office. When I applied, the program reimbursed 70% of the cost of the kit and the installation labor, up to a reasonable limit. I put my own on when I worked at the dealership, so I didn't get any labor reimbursement. The kit from John Deere cost a little over $700, and I got back a check from the program for a little over $500. Depending on funding, there may be a waiting period, but once you get it on and send in your paperwork and receipt, you will get your money.
If a tree falls in the forest, and then springs back up again; do the squirrels freak out?

"Abandon hope, all ye who enter here"

Offline Skeans1

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 548
  • Location: Rainier, OR
  • I'm new!
    • Share Post
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2018, 10:15:43 PM »
A lot of the equipment is being required 4 point harnesses like here the guys shovel logging are required to have them

Offline mike_belben

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 2154
  • Location: Middle TN
  • Pulp Friction
    • Share Post
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2018, 08:34:13 AM »
Sorry to hear about your friends, guys.
Revelation 3:20

Offline Southside logger

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 2089
  • Age: 45
  • Location: Wilsons (Dinwiddie County), VA
  • Gender: Male
  • Sawing so I can afford to farm.
    • Share Post
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2018, 10:43:37 PM »
Sorry to hear about your friends Barge.  Great point and if I can add - FOPS are just as important.  It's amazing how hard a dead stick will hit the top of the cab and make a 48,000 lb machine bounce.  Last summer a homeowner was pushing over a yard tree a few miles from here with his Kubota, it had a ROPS but no FOPS.  I don't recall exactly how it happened but he ended up with the tree pinning him to the seat over his shoulder and it killed him. 
'92 Franklin 170 grapple skidder
'92 Franklin 5000 wheeled buncher
Wicked Awesome Basset Hound * 2
JD 490D with 4 roller FabTek processer / hydraulic hose breaker
Hot wife
Wood Mizer LT35HDG25, Re-saw attachment
Official Member of the BBFC

Offline BargeMonkey

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 2477
  • Age: 33
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2018, 12:22:36 AM »
Sorry to hear about your friends Barge.  Great point and if I can add - FOPS are just as important.  It's amazing how hard a dead stick will hit the top of the cab and make a 48,000 lb machine bounce.  Last summer a homeowner was pushing over a yard tree a few miles from here with his Kubota, it had a ROPS but no FOPS.  I don't recall exactly how it happened but he ended up with the tree pinning him to the seat over his shoulder and it killed him.
Exactly, machines come with forestry guarding /fops for a reason. 👍 it's sad, I can go down the list of all the guys who have been killed around here in the last 20yrs, most of these accidents where preventable. Local guy got killed here skidding with a track loader, log hung on the stump and it cantilevered over getting him, another one 5yrs ago hung up a drag behind the farm tractor, no rops /fops, somehow when he jerked on it a top came around and smashed him face first into the steering wheel. All preventable accidents.

Offline Skeans1

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 548
  • Location: Rainier, OR
  • I'm new!
    • Share Post
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2018, 12:53:13 AM »
I'm seeing a big common denominator here use the appropriate tool for the job, a farm tractor is not a skidder or a forestry cat no matter how much guarding ect.

Offline BargeMonkey

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 2477
  • Age: 33
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2018, 01:09:22 AM »
I'm seeing a big common denominator here use the appropriate tool for the job, a farm tractor is not a skidder or a forestry cat no matter how much guarding ect.
I've seen alot of nice tractors set up for the woods, skidder is hard to justify for small scale. We have a TC35 we use with a grapple when cutting locust, pretty slick for what it is but it's got a rops. The guy who runs our pit has a 440C deere which the prior owner was killed on, took a stick in the cab, no perfect answer just see alot of stuff that's preventable.

Offline Ianab

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 12375
  • Age: 55
  • Location: Stratford , New Zealand
  • Gender: Male
  • Marmite on toast is a real breakfast
    • Share Post
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2018, 01:15:35 AM »
Rops / Fops / Guards / Grills just improve the odds of surviving a mishap. Like seat belts and airbags in a car.

Ideally you don't want to be in the position where you need to test them, but if you do, your odds of surviving are 10X better.

There is always going to be that freak accident that might take you out. But at least reduce the odds of that happening.
Weekend warrior, Peterson JP test pilot, Dolmar 7900 and Stihl MS310 saws and  the usual collection of power tools :)

Offline chevytaHOE5674

  • Forester
  • *
  • Posts: 3011
  • Location: Ontonagon Mi
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2018, 01:52:02 AM »
I had the joy of riding a JD 644 end loader onto its side once. I was not wearing my seatbelt and got pretty banged up inside that cab, but was alive. From then on if I'm doing anything remotely sketchy with a piece of equipment the seat belt goes on....

Offline starmac

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 2444
  • Location: Fairbanks Ak.
  • I'm new!
    • Share Post
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2018, 02:11:51 AM »
I rode a loaded TS14 scraper off a 12 or 14 foot cut bank one time, the foreman kept yelling for me to jump, but no way was I jumping off the down hill side. Anyway as soon as it hit I killed the front motor and climbed out and had to lay on my back and squirm under it by the back tire to kill the rear engine. By the time I got it killed the boss and a dozer hand had gone down to where they could get down off the bank and got there, just as I started to get out from under it I heard the boss breaking up saying how did he wind up back there, I told him to jump and just carrying on. I laid there as long as I could before I started laughing, when I did each one of them grabbed a leg and about jerked them off pulling me out from under it.
Old LT40HD, old log truck, old MM forklift, and several huskies.

Offline mike_belben

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 2154
  • Location: Middle TN
  • Pulp Friction
    • Share Post
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2018, 09:06:52 AM »
Barrel rolled off a rock ledge in a caged rockcrawler toyota once.  That floormat whooped me right across the face about 3x.  Lotta sand in my mouth but it beat getting nailed by the highlift or impact gun. Cage folded over a little but we landed on the rubber and did it again. 
Revelation 3:20

Offline maple flats

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 1815
  • Age: 71
  • Location: Oneida, NY
  • Gender: Male
  • Life is what you make it!
    • Share Post
    • Dave and Joan's sugarhouse web site
Re: Rops structure on tractors.
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2018, 08:11:50 AM »
I used the   https://www.ropsr4u.com/  site and added a ROPS on a tractor I no longer own. At the time the program paid $700, I've seen lately that they have a max. $ that you pay, and the program picks up the rest. When I added the ROPS I wanted to install it myself so I'd know no corners were cut, but the program insisted the ROPS be installed by a certified equipment dealer. I never tested the ROPS, but the peace of mind to me (and my wife) was priceless.
logging small time for years but just learning how,  2012 36 HP Mahindra tractor, 3point log arch, 8000# class excavator, lifts 2500# and sets logs on mill precisely where needed,  Peterson ATS upgraded to WPF mill, maple syrup a hobby that consumes my time. looking to learn blacksmithing.


Share via delicious Share via digg Share via facebook Share via linkedin Share via pinterest Share via reddit Share via stumble Share via tumblr Share via twitter

xx
ROPS

Started by 4x4American on General Board

28 Replies
6299 Views
Last post September 20, 2015, 09:50:24 PM
by 4x4American
xx
John Deere 450 ROPS

Started by BOBWOOD on Wanted

0 Replies
1005 Views
Last post March 05, 2012, 12:30:54 PM
by BOBWOOD
xx
John Deere 2010 ROPS

Started by Crusarius on General Board

23 Replies
1205 Views
Last post May 01, 2017, 08:59:24 AM
by maple flats
xx
Help First Log Structure!

Started by steadin on Timber Framing/Log construction

7 Replies
1312 Views
Last post October 02, 2014, 10:27:51 PM
by gimpy
 


Powered by EzPortal