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Re: Woodmizer band sharpening and nails
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2018, 03:23:46 PM »
"When using a Wood-Mizer wash tank,  blades are run through a cycle that cleans,  deburrs, and washes the blade in solvent.  The wash cycle also includes a set of rollers to pinch the blades to flatten and equalise the set.  This allows for the blades to be properly set during the setting process."
There's more but here's a pertinent quote. I'll put up a screenshot of the page when I can.
Page 6-3.
Page 6-3 in my BMS200/250 sharpener manual has a parts diagram of the grinder assembly on it which by coincidence is also section 6.3.

like i said I saw what you are mentioning somewhere. Curious what that is about I think it is for ReSharp operators.  Never saw that wash tank advertised anywhere on their web site
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Re: Woodmizer band sharpening and nails
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2018, 04:19:48 PM »
"When using a Wood-Mizer wash tank,  blades are run through a cycle that cleans,  deburrs, and washes the blade in solvent.  The wash cycle also includes a set of rollers to pinch the blades to flatten and equalise the set.  This allows for the blades to be properly set during the setting process."
There's more but here's a pertinent quote. I'll put up a screenshot of the page when I can.
Page 6-3.
Page 6-3 in my BMS200/250 sharpener manual has a parts diagram of the grinder assembly on it which by coincidence is also section 6.3.

like i said I saw what you are mentioning somewhere. Curious what that is about I think it is for ReSharp operators.  Never saw that wash tank advertised anywhere on their web site
Actually it's section 6-3 and page 6-6. This is in the PDF I downloaded. It may be different in my paper manual but that's where I first saw it. I've looked for it on their site too.
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Re: Woodmizer band sharpening and nails
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2018, 04:41:43 PM »
Sure it's the sharpener not the setter manual?
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Re: Woodmizer band sharpening and nails
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2018, 04:51:46 PM »
Sure it's the sharpener not the setter manual?
I'm sure. It's in the Resarp Process section. Another quote:
"The ReSharp process is designed to take a used, dull blade and bring it back to maximum performance. There are three basic stages in the ReSharp operation which can be performed in different sequences dependent on the equipment that you have,  the quality of the incoming blades and the final result required. Grinding Washing Setting"
I've searched and have never seen it discussed or any pictures except the one in the manual, either here or anywhere else online.
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Re: Woodmizer band sharpening and nails
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2018, 07:13:10 PM »
I don't wash. ;D
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Re: Woodmizer band sharpening and nails
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2018, 07:31:55 PM »
I do .I want to keep my wife.
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Re: Woodmizer band sharpening and nails
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2018, 07:53:04 PM »
"When using a Wood-Mizer wash tank,  blades are run through a cycle that cleans,  deburrs, and washes the blade in solvent.  The wash cycle also includes a set of rollers to pinch the blades to flatten and equalise the set.  This allows for the blades to be properly set during the setting process."
There's more but here's a pertinent quote. I'll put up a screenshot of the page when I can.
Page 6-3. 

This procedure sounds like the cleaner, downsetter, washer & setter at the Wood-Mizer Hannibal shop!

Which is where I originally got the idea to make (have made) my own downsetter!
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Re: Woodmizer band sharpening and nails
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2018, 07:55:12 PM »
I do .I want to keep my wife.


The blade. Just put it on the setter then sharpen. ;D
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Re: Woodmizer band sharpening and nails
« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2018, 08:11:24 PM »
"When using a Wood-Mizer wash tank,  blades are run through a cycle that cleans,  deburrs, and washes the blade in solvent.  The wash cycle also includes a set of rollers to pinch the blades to flatten and equalise the set.  This allows for the blades to be properly set during the setting process."
There's more but here's a pertinent quote. I'll put up a screenshot of the page when I can.
Page 6-3. 

This procedure sounds like the cleaner, downsetter, washer & setter at the Wood-Mizer Hannibal shop!

Which is where I originally got the idea to make (have made) my own downsetter!
I figured their shop had one so I planned on checking it out next trip there. Downsetting and de-burring are what interested me. I clean the blades before I take them off the mill usually.
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Re: Woodmizer band sharpening and nails
« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2018, 08:18:45 PM »
Sure it's the sharpener not the setter manual?
I'm sure. It's in the Resarp Process section. Another quote:
"The ReSharp process is designed to take a used, dull blade and bring it back to maximum performance. There are three basic stages in the ReSharp operation which can be performed in different sequences dependent on the equipment that you have,  the quality of the incoming blades and the final result required. Grinding Washing Setting"
I've searched and have never seen it discussed or any pictures except the one in the manual, either here or anywhere else online.
Strange. No ReSharp section in my manual.  But I"ve seen what you quote.  I'll have to look at the other paperwork I have. 

In any case it's a plug for ReSharp, that washer is not something WM sells.   I think there would be a good market for a simple downsetter device if they sold one. 
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Re: Woodmizer band sharpening and nails
« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2018, 12:25:33 AM »
Milling yesterday, and I started with a log that was full of nails. I hit one and then I did as Bandmiller2 said and looked for the curls on the teeth.  About a dozen teeth were affected and had the curl or at lease something I could feel with my finger nail on the leading edge of the tooth.  So I marked all those teeth with a red paint pen and then took a small flat file and hit the leading edge to take off the curl and flatten it.  I tried the band and it was cutting again.  I ended up taking off the other 3 slabs plus one 5/4 board.  I then went to start taking an 8/4 board and zing!  I had to pitch it this time- too many teeth affected.  Hey, that saved me losing a new band.  I have other bands I'd set aside from nail strikes, but I discovered that I need a better way to hold to inspect and work on bands.  I know I saw a post once where someone on here created a couple wheels on a bench to install the blade so they could work on and rotate it.  Now sure how they tensioned it.  Anybody got a link to that post?
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Re: Woodmizer band sharpening and nails
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2018, 11:25:41 PM »
Terrific, I have the same setter/sharpener as you. In the sharpener manual there's a page where they recommend using a Woodmizer wash tank which performs a few functions, including down setting, deburring and cleaning. I have searched and can't find anything anywhere on one. Do you or anyone else know of this?
I've visited Resharp in Ga.  Basically, the cleaning machine looks like a self feeding sharpening machine with many motorized, spinning wire brushes scrubbing the band with oil or or solvent, much like a car wash for saw blades.

 I saw some bands that were so rusty and dirty it looked like they had been stored in wet mud, and after the wire scrubbing and cleaning they looked pretty good.

When I hit a nail, I pull the band and then when I have time, put it in my dual tooth setter and go once around, checking the dial indicators, setting the band per usual, and resetting over set teeth or bent teeth, and what ever else was damaged.  Then I'll CBN it back to sharp and cut with it.  If I have more than three busted off teeth consecutively, I chunk the band. 
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