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Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« on: January 12, 2018, 02:17:43 PM »
Greetings.  I currently have a 36" stihl bar for my 661 but I want to move up to at least a 48".  I can't locate a Stihl branded one that will work.  Can anyone point me to a lead?  Thanks
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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2018, 10:57:43 PM »
Good luck finding a MS661/3003 Stihl mount bar over 36".
You have to go into the larger MS880/3002 mount 42" and beyond but they won't fit you 661.
Only option is a special order from Cannon with one of their Super Bars.
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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2018, 11:09:08 PM »
I've got some oak logs that are larger than what I can slab with by 36" bar and alaskan mill. I wanted to try and produce some wider slabs by upgrading the bar and customizing my current mill.
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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2018, 11:27:51 PM »
I couldn't find a Stihl brand bar that size.  However, this one works petty well with a Stihl skip tooth chan.  52" long and fits my MS661 no probelm.  I use it to split big logs.



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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2018, 12:27:58 AM »
Baileys online has a 42"  in .375 (3/8) oregon B&C combo for $140 + s&h or a 50" in .404 but currently out of stock on it.
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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2018, 05:12:14 AM »
FWIW I have an Oregon 42" .404 originally sized for an 066 Stihl  with the slot milled out now fitting an 084 Stihl .It's an older bar but I could get the numbers from the bar if you like .It was fairly cheap off of flea bay a few years back .Less than 50 bucks with a chain .

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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2018, 08:04:37 AM »
Thanks, YellowHammer.  The saw sitting on the shredder deck wasn't obvious to me at first.  That is a  nice looking setup.  Do you have the part number of the bar?  That would be helpful as this size bar would be ideal for what I am envisioning.

Joe, thanks for the Baileys info.  I may contact them to see if they know when the 50" would be off backorder.

Al, I wouldn't mind getting the numbers from you in case I need to go with that option.  Thanks!
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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2018, 08:53:34 AM »
I forgot to mention the chainsaw and bar was sitting in the mower deck from a day of splitting logs.

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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2018, 09:37:55 AM »
Last night I was unable to see the saw on the mower deck, but can definitely see it there this morning after getting sleep.
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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2018, 09:39:27 AM »
I tried to get one of them 3003 mount canon bars from baileys I think it was $350 but they were sold out or discontinued at the time
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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2018, 11:27:51 AM »
The last 3003 mount Stihl saw that could pull a 48"-50" chain with authority was the 056Mag2.
 It was discontinued over 25 years ago.
Those old bars are available on eBay sometimes.
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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2018, 11:46:14 AM »
You don't want to mill oak with a 48" bar on a MS661 it hasn't the power needed, beyond 42" you are pretty much in double powerhead territory with a MS 661 and then you can go big. A MS 661 and MS 362 can get around 72" bar cutting  when running double head.

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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2018, 12:41:57 PM »
Well said Jesper, best advice posted.
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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2018, 02:55:51 PM »
You don't want to mill oak with a 48" bar on a MS661 it hasn't the power needed, beyond 42" you are pretty much in double powerhead territory with a MS 661 and then you can go big. A MS 661 and MS 362 can get around 72" bar cutting  when running double head.

Curious how that works ?

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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2018, 03:48:24 PM »
I just looked on flea bay and there are a bunch of 42" Stihl mount bars for 066 size .I only found one used one in .404 size .There is a Canon too if you want to pay the tarrif .They are very  proud of those bars  but they say they are a very good .Then again in my case the bar would cost about twice as much as any saw I've ever bought .Tight wad ya know . ;D

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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2018, 04:18:19 PM »
You don't want to mill oak with a 48" bar on a MS661 it hasn't the power needed, beyond 42" you are pretty much in double powerhead territory with a MS 661 and then you can go big. A MS 661 and MS 362 can get around 72" bar cutting  when running double head.

Curious how that works ?
You don't need matched powerheads milling on a double ended bar.
Me and my buddy ran a 066 and 044 on the same loop of chain milling lumber quite a few times.
They cut like crazy together even though both run different rpm at WOT by themselves. They even out real nice together.

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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2018, 05:37:46 PM »
It's no different than Arnold Schwarzenegger and DannyDeVito on a tandem bike. Arnold might be doing most of the work, but the bike is going to go faster than if just one of them was on the bike.
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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2018, 05:59:13 PM »
Yup I have an 056 mag II, awesome saw still strong.
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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2018, 10:44:48 PM »
Doublehead milling
and this one shows and explain it.

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Re: Largest bar available for a Stihl MS661?
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2018, 08:51:43 AM »
I just looked on flea bay and there are a bunch of 42" Stihl mount bars for 066 size .I only found one used one in .404 size .There is a Canon too if you want to pay the tarrif .They are very  proud of those bars  but they say they are a very good .Then again in my case the bar would cost about twice as much as any saw I've ever bought .Tight wad ya know . ;D
I looked for a long time for a long bar for my saw, finally found it at a place called "The Little Red Barn" on the web.  The Forrester was half the price of the Cannons.  Most likely an inferior bar to the Cannon, but I don't have any complaints.   Up until then I was using a 32" and having to double cut to split big logs to bring them down to size for my sawmill.  Total pain in the rear.  I visited Customsawyer, where he used a 48" bar on a 66 to split an oak log for the Sycamore project to quarter saw.  Went pretty fast, and uneventful.  So I bought this 52" for the same purpose, and it works quite well.  One cut, done, uneventful and predictable. I don't use a bar this big for routine use, but for what I intended, it works great. 

I wouldn't ever consider chainsaw milling entire logs with one, anyway.   

If I go bigger, I may get a double ended bar, seems I'm running into more 50" to 60" diameter logs these days.  Jesper, that an informative video. 

 
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