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Re: Maple Syrup 2018
« Reply #120 on: March 13, 2018, 05:30:31 PM »
what are you guys in the north going to do with all your money from that syrup  :D 8) oh i know buy more eggs  :D :D

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« Reply #121 on: March 14, 2018, 07:19:06 AM »
I am not a financial part in it other than I go up there and help and in the end I get paid!

My brother and his SIL primarily use their income for taxes and replacement parts, and expansion!

We are up to 160 gallons now!
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Re: Maple Syrup 2018
« Reply #122 on: March 14, 2018, 09:54:56 AM »
As a continuation to replies 96 & 97.
Yesterday at the sugar house in Franklin, VT: at noon the draw off temperature was 219.1*, at 3:30 it was 219.6*, using the same hydometer the entire day.  The barometric pressure had to of changed.
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« Reply #123 on: March 14, 2018, 10:31:48 AM »
The barometer can be up and down all day sometimes!

Also, many things WILL affect your boil, some of them are: barometric pressure, cloud cover & humidity!

Sap run can be affected by those same three, plus:  wind, temperature, snow on the limbs or stuck on the side of the trees!

 
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« Reply #124 on: March 14, 2018, 11:14:33 AM »
The barometer can be up and down all day sometimes!

Also, many things WILL affect your boil, some of them are: barometric pressure, cloud cover & humidity!

Sap run can be affected by those same three, plus:  wind, temperature, snow on the limbs or stuck on the side of the trees!

 
I do not disagree with any of the above.
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« Reply #125 on: March 15, 2018, 03:06:19 PM »
We didn't get another run, but we flooded the flue pan with water and boiled down the sap that was in there beforehand!

We are up to 164 gallons now!
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Re: Maple Syrup 2018
« Reply #126 on: March 17, 2018, 11:36:36 PM »
  Pumped our first sap today.  Around 100 gallons.  It's a start ;D  Tomorrow looks to be better before it gets cold again for a couple days.  Hopefully we'll have enough at the end of the day tomorrow to get the rig sweetened.  We did a test boil with water Friday.  Just have to set up the draw off tank and filter press.
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« Reply #127 on: March 18, 2018, 07:12:11 AM »
Spent the day yesterday digging out roads for gathering sap whenever it warms up again!

We have sap in some of the barrels, so we'll probably collect it and put it in barrels in the sugarhouse!

There won't be enough to boil, so it'll just be stored for a while!
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« Reply #128 on: March 18, 2018, 09:52:02 AM »
 I have enough to run for a few hrs so I started to pump some sap from a lower tank and within a couple of seconds the hose going to the upper tank froze right up >:(. Now I have to wait till the sun thaws out the hose :D . i will have to start a small fire in the arch just to thaw whats in the evaporator and hope it didn't crack the solder :o. Took 3 days of a slow drip to get 125 gals off 295 taps, not running very good.

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« Reply #129 on: March 18, 2018, 10:05:11 AM »
Sounds like you're doing ok, Ed!

If you're making a fire to thaw whats in the evaporator, just make a very small one, don't want to burn your pans!
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« Reply #130 on: March 18, 2018, 07:23:45 PM »
 Just came in from firing the arch. Fire box is 18" wide and 24" deep, I built it up 12" high about half way up to the bottom of the pan. Front pan steamed a little and back pan just barely melted. Figured that was good enough. I've never done this before on this set up. My neighbor does the same thing to his 4'x 12' set up. I hope it doesn't get as cold tonight,sap ran just enough that I could boil 4 or 5 hrs tomorrow.

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Re: Maple Syrup 2018
« Reply #131 on: March 18, 2018, 07:30:43 PM »
I have been selling  cord softwood slabs like crazy. Had one customer a few weeks ago getting ready to tap. I told him to tap the south side/ sunny side of the tree, He came back to get more slabs last Wednesday, 
He was so happy he had so much sap to boil, last year he didn't do much.
Taped the north side. :D  :D 
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« Reply #132 on: March 18, 2018, 10:45:15 PM »
  Pumped 900 gallons of sap into the tanks in the sugar house and filled the sap pan on the evaporator.  Sap tests right a 2% 8)  Jordan Hunt of Michigan Maple Systems our local Leader dealer is coming at 9 tomorrow morning for the rigs maiden voyage :) :) 8) 8)
 
  Got the tubing tightened up pretty good.  Gage at the pump was 25-26 most of the day.  Zach and his friend went out around noon and tuned the system up.  They can hear the leaks 8) 8)  I can't unless it's a big one :(  I ordered some vacuum gages for the pump house, end of the wet dry, and a couple mains.
  Supposed to be cold tomorrow through Wednesday.  Looks like some sap days the end of the week.  Here we go ;D :) :)
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« Reply #133 on: March 19, 2018, 06:17:33 AM »
Did another boil on Saturday. Total so far 3.2 Gallons. Thankfully no more mice......knock on wood.

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« Reply #134 on: March 20, 2018, 02:46:44 PM »
Wishing you good luck on your evaporators maiden voyage, Corley5
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« Reply #135 on: March 20, 2018, 09:01:16 PM »
  Everything went very well after a rocky start.  I didn't check the Marcland valve and found it was 1" and the evap. is 3/4.  The temp probes for it came with plastic compression fittings meant to go into the top lip of the finish pan.  A trip to Petoskey for parts and some assembly and we got running much later.  Nothing ever goes as planned.  We finally fired up a 3:30.  We started to idle the rig down at 9 and were out of the sugar house just after 10.  The evap. is rated for 135 gph and we got 150 out of it 8) 8) 8) 8)  Ended up with about 8 gallons of finished syrup 8) 8) that'll grade golden delicate.  We were lacking fittings to connect the draw off tank to the filter press so it has to be re heated and filtered.  Got fittings today.  The devil is in the details.  Looks like sap will probably run the end of the week into the weekend and next week looks pretty good too.    
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« Reply #136 on: March 21, 2018, 07:24:42 AM »
Well, it sounds like you had a good voyage!  8) 8)

We are starting out this morning with temp at 6 (that's up on he HOT side of zero), and we figure the sap will run a little this afternoon!

Better temps by the weekend and it looks like we'll be busy next week!  8) 8)
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« Reply #138 on: March 21, 2018, 07:56:52 AM »
 Wow 8) Nice setup, Corley.

 I had to dump all the saved sap. With very cold nights and warming to 35 day time the sap coming down the lines is spoiling before it gets to the tanks. Takes to long to thaw out and the sap sitting in the 5/16 lines heat up and go's bad >:(. Took me all day to clean the tanks. I left the main lines unhooked from the tanks and hope we get a good run today to clean out the lines. The rest of the week looks like good running weather.

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« Reply #139 on: March 21, 2018, 06:31:08 PM »
Hey Corley, glad youre making syrup! A lot of hard work to get to that point.

Just a tip- you dont need to hear leaks and actually shouldnt rely on noise to find vacuum leaks. That will only get you so far, with big leaks. Getting to 25 or so isnt too hard but the last few inches to max the pump out is hard to get. Got to walk mainlines and look at the saddle fitting loops, if its holding a solid column of sap its a tight line. IF the bubbles move fast or it runs along the bottom of the tubing, that line has a leak. Small leaks like bad tap holes or tiny tiny chews or installation damage are hard to find- you often wont hear them. Takes a lot of walking and time and practice. Good luck!
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